9/11 and Antiwar

“They do not understand that if you grant the government its premise for war, it is impossible to oppose the war.”

I thought that was an interesting statement made by Paul Craig Roberts in the following article about how propaganda works on a population. (Why Propaganda Trumps Truth)


Roberts was actually referring to many antiwar writers and internet sites that skirt around the 9/11 issue for fear of being labeled as “terrorist sympathizers” or conspiracy theorists and risk discrediting their opposition to the wars, such as it is. He particularly pointed out antiwar.com and referenced how that site seems to be having trouble with it’s fundraising, with the inference that this skirting around the reason for the wars is hurting their overall message.  

For the public at large, he related that as far as propaganda goes, big lies are the way to go, as Adolf Hitler knew so well.

“In Mein Kampf, Hitler explained the believability of the Big Lie as compared to the small lie: “In the simplicity of their minds, people more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have such impudence. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and continue to think that there may be some other explanation.”

It’s pretty common knowledge now that the Iraq war was based on lies and therefore an illegal attack of another country.  9/11 is not mentioned as the rationale for that war except from the most severely ignorant among us, and certainly no longer in mainstream television and internet.  Even though it is not disputed, there still is no significant public outcry for accountability of the architects of this clearly illegal war.   The promises by our new emperor Obama to get out of the country have duly placated the American public and most of the western world.  

But our occupation of Afghanistan is another story, and the story that is now front and center with the antiwar movement because of the possible escalation decision coming from our government.   The antiwar writers and blogs talk about how Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires, that we can’t possibly win there.  As Roberts points out, they don’t talk about the fact that the occupation in Afghanistan is based on lies as well.  For that, 9/11 has to be brought into the discussion, and most antiwar writers won’t go there for fear of being labeled with the red A and becoming null and void.

The 9/11 truth movement has been painted by the propaganda machine as consisting of wackos and flakes.  This wasn’t by accident.  As Hitler said himself,  the people don’t want to believe the big lie so it isn’t hard to tell them they are right to do so and anyone who says differently is simply crazy.  Big lies are simply too hard to believe.  But it’s ridiculous to ignore the many intelligent, professional and knowledgeable people who are questioning the official version of 9/11.  Engineers, architects, pilots, firefighters, police, clergy, Survivors, and even Political Leaders have joined in the effort to find the real truth of the 9/11 incidents.

What is truly amazing about the closed 9/11 book is the fact that history is not stagnant.  It is not written in stone at the time it happens, except of course by the victors.  History is continually being rewritten based on new discoveries and evidence.  Any rational person should agree with that.  An example of this in the political realm is the recent disclosures concerning Sirhan Sirhan and the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy.  


Researchers and activists are constantly on the prowl for new information in their quest for the truth.   The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) is constantly used in an effort to get information from the government to try and piece together our history.  It should be considered no different than archeologists constantly seeking new information to better define our entire human history.  A example of that is the recent discovery of a possible missing link in the evolution of the human being.


The only real naysayers to that type of research are the bible thumpers.   Researchers seemingly finding evidence for evolution, that would put in doubt the story of the Bible, are discredited by religious groups because they do not want to consider that possibility.  That is the same mindset Adolf Hitler talked about in Mein Kampft.  Those that believe in the Bible and call themselves Christians can’t bring themselves to believe something they consider a big lie.  There is no truth, no history, except that which they believe.

The general public won’t question the big lie.  As Roberts says,  “The US government’s response to 9/11, regardless of who is responsible, has altered our country forever. Our civil liberties will never again be as safe as they were. America’s financial capability and living standards are forever lower. Our country’s prestige and world leadership are forever damaged. The first decade of the 21st century has been squandered in pointless wars, and it appears the second decade will also be squandered in the same pointless and bankrupting pursuit..  The most disturbing fact of all remains: The 9/11 event responsible for these adverse happenings has not been investigated.”

I would correct Roberts on that last statement.  The 9/11 event was investigated by the 9/11 Commission in 2004, three years after the event.   The case was closed as decreed by our government.  Anyone who further questioned that decision was forever more considered a conspiracy theorist, and not credible.  The public has accepted that because they cannot consider the Big Lie.  If that’s the standard we want to apply, then let’s stop trying to prove evolution.  


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    • Underdog on November 5, 2009 at 06:44

    I severely want to post this on the Orange.  Keep in mind I’m banned for a statement about 9/11, but if I acknowledge the error of my ways, which of course I have not, I can post again.  I really don’t care if I get truly banned versus semantically banned, but I’ll take any wise offerings from my friends.  

  1. that we will never get out of Afghanistan until somebody comes clean about 9/11.

    And years from now I’ll likely still be saying it.

  2. it’s dying.  There are levels of PC crap in it, levels of acceptance that divide 911 truthers and the stop the war movement.  As a 911 truth Die Hard it is very clear to me that the US is exceeding the Nazi behavior of the 1940s.  OK, we don’t have the camps, not yet.

    So the smart creative people emmigrate to Ecquador and the rest who have to stay here become an underground society.  No wonder the FBI is chasing “domestic” terrorists.

  3. Might be worth a quick discussion in the body of the diary re: why you are violating Godwin’s Law, so you don’t sound like a teabagger.

    I think it’s justified in this case, just might be worth showing that you’re self-reflective about it.

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