Can we apply to the Hague now?

I’m so pissed.  If you want a well thought out essay, it’s not this one.  

Since the Commander and Thief has vetoed banning waterboarding, can we please ask the Hague for help?

Bush vetoes bill banning waterboarding

CIA needs this kind of ‘valuable’ tool to prevent attacks, Bush says in this AP article

I call bullshit!

President Bush said Saturday he vetoed legislation that would ban the CIA from using harsh interrogation methods such as waterboarding to break suspected terrorists because it would end practices that have prevented attacks.


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    • Alma on March 8, 2008 at 19:08

    And maybe give them a little waterboarding so they know what its like.

  1. Commander and Thief

    and why do we need tons of words??? it’s the quality, not the quantity.

    tip’d, rec’d, and savored!!!

  2. Some things are just so obvious that they don’t need many words. In this case, just a point —-> look over there at what he’s done now, says it all.  

  3. the tools he needs to fight the terrorists.”

    And I always go ballistic when I hear him peddle that bullshit.

    Your essay speaks for millions of us, Alma.  Thank you.

  4. That’s what Bully Boy says.

    What he means is:

    “I’ll be damned if I let ’em outlaw my weekly Saturday Night Torture Porn.”

    Actually, come to think of it, he will be damned.

  5. is that I know very few people who believe anything Bush says regarding terrorism anymore. I have quite a few friends & acquaintences that voted for him, and they fully admit that Bush is full of it – that he makes up excuses like this because he can.

    Those friends just want Bush to just quietly wander away without causing too much more trouble. I have a difficult time having conversations about this with them, because I think he has (and continues to) commit war crimes, commit crimes against humanity, and commit crimes in violation of our constitution.

    Maybe it’s outrage overload. I just can’t swallow and ignore the blatant actions of this man. Overlooking his actions is an apathetic act of cowardice. It’s not patriotic – it’s not humane. Congress needs to do something to enact oversight. If they won’t do it, then what do we do? How do you get this issue reviewed by the international courts? Does the UN turn a blind eye?

    It sets back decades of precedent, making America’s government no better than that of any tyrannical, evil dictator.

    I’m so curious to see what our candidates have to say about this. I hope that they will draw a line in the sand on this. They need to do more than make a speech – they need to lay out how they will LEAD us back toward civility.  

  6. Bush has seized powers that Nixon only dreamed of, and better yet, both parties in Congress gave up their powers to the unitary fool, with only token resistance.  

    How times have changed.  While Nixon was forced to resign for his role in the Watergate/ cover-up-Bush can openly admit to authorizing torture (by merely calling torture by another name).  Bush can be caught multiple times in lies; he can admit to using private companies to spy on millions of Americans without a warrant & then demand immunity for those companies (and himself) just by claiming that he has to violate the Fourth Amendment for reasons of “national security”.  

    Instead of being impeached for his lawbreaking, Bush holds a press conference and scolds Congress for not caving in to him faster.  Still they don’t impeach…  

    Nixon was stopped by people in his own party and the opposition party who valued the office of the Presidency more than they valued its current occupant.  Unfortunately, there aren’t any of those types left in Bush’s party and very few left in the “opposition” party.  In fact, there’s very little “opposition” left in the “opposition party”.  

    It’s certainly enough to piss off anyone who’s paying attention, who cares about the country and who isn’t paid off by lobbyists.  

  7. Nothing is more enraging than Bush when he speaks from his arrogant, I’ll do as I please, mannered mouth.

    He doesn’t give one thit in iota about the legality of torture, or whether it is even an effective means (all of history will tell you, torture serves no real purpose other than satiating the torturer’s needs).  

    I wish to hell we could engage The Hague to commence some action against our International crimes.

    Good job, Alma!!!!

  8. shows false flag red alerts for Chicago,Dallas,Portland or Florida City by April 1,2008.

    A) People are working to avoid this and

    B) Psychic channeling isn’t exactly a proven science

    Take your pick.

    Take note of the void of coverage on Puppygate and media’s repeated use of the word “spygate” associated with football and not the NSA’s complete transcript of your last dinner.  Any number of atrocities against the Iraqi people can easily be found on youtube.

    Oh, last thing.  Watch for a PR campaign around the “benefits” of “re-negotiating NAFTA”. Rest assured there has been an ongoing multiple year renegotiation already.  Those keywords are

    Canamex    TransTexas Corridor  Nascocorridor

    SPPNA      deep integration

    SPP        Cintrex

    Amero      North American Union

    • Alma on March 9, 2008 at 00:51

    unless we can get a member state to bring the charges.

    International Court of Justice FAQ’s

  9. The awful truth of this one does not need a lot of words.  It is stronger with few words.

    A retired attorney friend asked me this question a couple of months ago.  What is the method for taking a case to the International CC?  I did a little bit of web searching, but didn’t find anything helpful.

    Thank you for your outrage, and especially for writing and posting it here.

  10. that doesn’t require any mental gymnastics to understand.  I’m not so flexible feeling today.  This is exactly what I need.

    • kj on March 10, 2008 at 15:29

    🙂  🙂  🙂  

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