Daily Kos and Democrats

Well, it looks like I left Daily Kos just in time.

What a mess, and what a disgrace the Democratic Party is.

They’re no better than the Repbublicans, and I’ll tell you why:

If you support illegal actions, you are equally culpable for the breaking of those laws.

Democrats approved an Attorney General who wouldn’t call torture torture, even after the disgusting outrage that was the Maher Arar case.

Democrats are now known to have known about ongoing torture and the video recordings of such torture, for years before their existence and destruction came to public light.

Democrats, now in control of the Legislative branch of American government, continue to wink and look the other way as the Republican President of the United States continues to shred the nation’s Constitution.

I don’t know what’s going on, but how does Daily Kos continue to support a party that has been complicit in the ransacking of the country of its founders and overwhelming majority of its members?

How can you work to elect people to a party that has helped destroy your nation’s rule of law?

How can you work to elect quislings like Jim Webb, who talk a great game and then bend over to take the shaft when ordered to by their dictator President?

George W. Bush should be in chains right now, as should Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, and the war criminals responsible for America’s war crimes in Iraq, Guantanamo and the black C.I.A. sites around the world.

And the Democratic Party, folks, is the reason they aren’t

Think about that for awhile…

If the Democratic Party was an actual party…this bullshit would have been over long, long ago, and if the Democratic Party had had a fucking backbone in the days after 9/11, Iraq wouldn’t even have happened.

The Democratic Party sucks.

And Daily Kos is just confusing me right now…they don’t seem to get it.

And don’t tell me they’re going to change party from the inside…no one in the Democratic Party gives a shit what Daily Kos is doing and does, other than the votes they bring to the candidates, in order to continue their treasonous alliance with the Republicans.

Barack Obama embraces homophobes.

Hillary and Edwards voted to let George W. Bush go to war.  Hillary just voted to let George do it again…to Iran…

The Presidential Election of ’08 can now be officially labeled a ClusterFuckTM.

It doesn’t matter which party wins, you see…it’ll either be the Republican Party, or its willing and compliant alter-ego, the Democratic Party of Quislings.

To this non-American, it really doesn’t matter.

All I know is, when the Election is over…Americans still won’t have a democratic nation.

That dream died in the flames of 9/11, when the Democrats woke up and decided that being re-elected was far more important than saving their nation from dismantling and bankruptcy by a Republican tyrant.


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  1. ’cause the American people have already lost…

    • TheRef on December 8, 2007 at 17:15

    your point seems to be that all people, all governments are fallible. Is that your point? What would you suggest as the alternative?

  2. I was listening to NPR talk about congressional republicans stopping a bill that would have eliminated the alternative minimum tax (something GW has been pressuring congress to do) because it contained tax increases for the uber-wealthy. And what did the Dems do? They took out the tax increases. The response from the Republicans was to continue to block the bill. Why? Because the Dems insisted that lost revenue from the alternative minimum tax be paid for.

    As I sat listening to this, I wondered why the Dems can’t russle up the kind of backbone to do what the Republicans do all the time. The Republicans don’t give an inch!!! And the more the Dems get hit with that – the more they compromise. And we all go down the rabbit hole together.  

  3. makes me giggle. The hard news comes oozing out, week after week. Torture tapes, ginning up a new war,(the next war?), meanwhile the government both sides, just keeps cranking out the faux backdrop of surreal. Ted’s gonna probe this new one, whoope! The charade of checks balances and two parties is bipartisan, and our choice is which crooks face will be on your screen for the next 8years.

    To call the choice between bad and worse realism is delusional. To point the finger at those who actually won’t buy this shit, and call them purists and the enemy of the ? is just enabling  the weasels in power and this attitude keeps them there. But hey that Obama wrote a ambitious essay in kindergarten. All government’s are fallible a necessary evil at best, but this one right here and now is up their with the ones that become so intolerable and dangerous they need to be stopped.          

  4. This country is full of wusses, who, rather than rock the boat, would just sit on their hands and watch the disintegration of this country as a democracy.

    Kucinich is the ONLY one with any backbone, the ONLY one who understands completely what is going on and what needs to be done, but because of it, he gets “sidelined” frequently — Iowa, for example.

    Sometimes, I think wusses are inbred in this country.  Corporate America rules the roost — people who work in corporate environments cower to the control by them in order to keep their jobs and it’s a continuum in behavior.  For example, those in media are told what to say or not to say, so if they want a paycheck, they have to go along.  Mainstream media is owned by the corporate right.  

    Although there are the anti-trust laws intended to prevent formation of megaconglomerates, it’s been ineffectual, and the “little guy” is out!

  5. I said it before, so now I have to say it again.  The Democratic Party isn’t a party of opposition.  There really isn’t a party of opposition in the US, even though people here desperately wish there were one.  Do I long for a left alternative?  Absolutely.  Is there one?  Not really. That’s why I’m still with Eugene V. Debs:

    I’d rather vote for something I want and not get it than vote for something I don’t want, and get it.

    How can I support a party that consistently votes for what I don’t want?  For that matter, how can dKos?

  6. These seemed appropriate to the discussion.

    “How soon we forget history….Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” George Washington

    “Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair; the rest is in the hands of God.” George Washington

    “Mankind, when left to themselves, are unfit for their own government.” George Washington

  7. from the comments here I can come out of the closet and offer up the theory that the Illuminati actually runs the entire “government”, both “parties” included.  You may of course substitute the world Illuminati for global corporations if you wish.

    • eugene on December 9, 2007 at 02:24

    …this was a new development.

  8. over Iraq, just for starters.

    But I’m not willing to say it doesn’t matter which party’s in control.

    It still matters — but much less than it should.  We’ve got to keep the pressure on to try to fix it.

    That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

  9. splendid.  Only 125 million to go……….  

  10. that’s mission is to elect a Democrat and whose owner has just agreed to write for The Hill – one of the most conservative political websites. But what do I know.

  11. I’m very unhappy with the performance of too many Democrats in office, but they are the ones with the problem, they are the ones that are failing to uphold the principles of the Democratic party.  

    That means they should go, not me, not you, not the people that support and want to live up to what the party really stands for.

    • snud on December 9, 2007 at 23:05

    1) The next POTUS will likely appoint at least two Supreme Court Justices. I’d prefer that person doing the appointing be a Democrat.

    2) To paraphrase Forest Gump, a POTUS is like a box of chocolates – you never know what you’ll get. I would’ve never thought in a million years that a guy like LBJ would’ve pushed as hard as he did for the Equal Rights Amendment but damned if he didn’t.

    GWB promised all kinds of crap – “Uniter, not a divider”, didn’t believe in “Nation building”, etc., etc. and broke every f***ing promise he made.

    Don’t get me wrong; I’m frustrated as hell at the Democratic party too. I think they’ve been a bunch of spineless assholes in Congress. I don’t even know where to begin listing all the disappointments.

    But I will vote for the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee simply because I’m rather terrified about the alternative.

    • ctrenta on December 10, 2007 at 03:25

    But the Dems will never fight, they always go down bad like Pierre Bouchard. Face it folks. This is our reality!

    1978 Stanley Cup Finals

    Boston Bruins vs. Montreal Canadiens, game four

    Stan Jonathan vs. Pierre Bouchard

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