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Swine flu - what you don't know CAN and WILL KILL you

by: randgrithr

Fri Oct 02, 2009 at 07:41:00 PDT        
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A well-loved and highly respected woman in the SCA out in California fell ill at an event held on Labor Day weekend. She was hospitalized on the 15th. The diagnosis, a WEEK later, was H1N1 - swine flu.

They took her off life support yesterday. She's gone.

Her lung collapsed and her kidneys completely failed within a month. This was a woman who fought in the SCA, both heavy list and fencing. She had been knighted for her skill and recently was awarded another peerage for her service. Just as a note for people unfamiliar with the SCA; those who receive knighthoods for heavy list fighting, male or female, are not exactly known for their weak constitutions. They have proven themselves capable of moving with superior speed and skill while wearing suits of armor that can weigh up to 120 pounds. She was healthy and strong a month ago. Today she's dead.

I strongly urge you to read the full blog which describes this poor lady's symptoms as they developed. My suspicion is that what actually killed her was IGNORANCE. First of all, why did it take them a FULL WEEK to come back with a diagnosis of swine flu? Doctors and hospitals KNOW this shit is coming. They should be prepared.

Secondly, note in the blog that they state that she had a reaction to "a codeine medication". This was probably Tylenol with Codeine. On this note, read the second link.

Treating H1N1 as ordinary flu, especially with certain drugs, can make the problem worse. This is what happened in 1918, when antibiotics were nonexistent and aspirin was a new treatment for fever. What killed most of the people who died from the 1918 flu was not the flu itself - it was treating them with ASPIRIN.

The purpose of a fever is to heat the body so much that viruses and bacteria will die. By treating the fever without attacking the invasive virus/bacteria, you nullify the body's natural defenses, the infection runs wild, and PEOPLE DIE.

The reason I can speak with a certain amount of authority about the H1N1 swine flu and it's effects is that I am very familiar with them. While stationed at my first and only duty station in Germany, I was frequently very sick with either bronchitis or bronchial pneumonia. I was never prone to either of these until I was stationed overseas, and originally thought that it was because I was allergic to something there. However, the problem followed me home and from 1992 until 2003 I continued to get bronchitis and bronchial pneumonia regularly. This was because even after I left the Air Force, I continued in civilian life to get a flu shot every fall.

While in the Air Force, every November I was injected with a mandatory annual flu shot, which I was told was to work against "Russian Type A Flu". Googling this will get you many hits on H1N1 - it's the same biological weapon that came out of Fort Dix in 1976, although (of course) it was being blamed on the Russians in our neck of the woods.

For the entire duration of my assignment in Germany and for many years after that, I could never simply catch a cold. Anything that even remotely resembled a cold would blossom into sinusitis or bronchitis, and if I ignored this into bronchial pneumonia, within the week. It got to the point later in my civilian life that if I got a stuffy nose, I'd wait exactly three days and then make the appointment, because I knew by the fourth day I was going to be coughing stuff up and the doctor would give me antibiotics.

I have documented elsewhere the incident in November of 1989 where I came down with bronchial pneumonia while assigned a garbage detail. After two days of trying to tough out outdoor duty in the dead of a viciously cold German winter, I finally broke down and reported to sick call. I was treated like a malingerer and ignored for so long that the fever broke over the three and a half hours that I sat shivering and sweating in the waiting room. When I finally was seen by a doctor, he snorted in disgust because now there was no fever, and ordered me to pick up a prescription at the window. The prescription was for aspirin.

My own disgusted reaction, which was to crush the paper in my hand and throw it across the room, probably saved my life.

When I reported to sick call the following day I was treated quickly with professionalism and compassion and given antibiotics, which solved the problem.

When I was outprocessing the Air Force, I was handed my medical charts by a doctor and noticed a new stamp on my file that said "MK-ULTRA". It was next to the other compartmentalizations on my clearance, and I recognized the term from having seen it on the system I administered. I asked what it was, and the doctor looked embarrassed and said "Um, it's something that shouldn't be there. I'll take it off." He refused to tell me what it was. I knew what my other compartmentalizations meant, so the fact that I hadn't been told about this and the doctor's cageyness caused the incident to stay in my memory. I later found out that MK-ULTRA was the project name for unauthorized experimentation that has been done on members of the US military since the 1950s.

In 2003 I stopped taking the annual flu shot, and I also stopped getting bronchitis and pneumonia on a regular basis.

I make a habit of eating a wedge of stilton cheese at least once a month. I like stilton, for me it's a "comfort food", but after catching the bronchial foo that was going around the CodePink house in DC a few summers ago I discovered that it could also save me a copay and prescription fee. I had come down with the foo on a Friday and was not going to have access to my doctor until Monday. I ate a wedge of stilton and the stuff was completely gone by Monday. Stilton's unique flavor, as I discovered by happy accident, is provided by a helpful little critter called penicillum roqueforti. :)

A word to the wise... if you get the flu this season, do not treat the fever. Let it run it's course unless things get dangerous (in which case a doctor should already be involved, of course), and keep the presence of natural antibiotics in your diet high throughout the flu season. If you are not allergic to penicillin and don't mind the flavor, a wedge of stilton (or roquefort, or bleu) a month will keep the doctor away. Honey is also good, especially manuka - highly antibacterial. Antibacterials won't do anything to combat the virus, of course, but it will help a great deal to avert secondary infections.

Pass this on to those you care about.

randgrithr :: Swine flu - what you don't know CAN and WILL KILL you

O Sister in the Sword, though I never knew you, I know you for a far better woman than I,
and well I know the force that killed you.

You shall NOT have left this world in vain. Thus swears Randgríðr.

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Tell Targai (?) (4.00 / 2)
Firebow says Hello. ;-)

"By the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes.", Wm. Shakespeare, "Macbeth"

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*lifted eyebrow* (4.00 / 1)
Ummm, okayyyyy. :) (Gods, he knows SO MANY people I don't...)

And yes, Yeh-Liu Targai is my husband's persona name.

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Firebow is my S-i-L (4.00 / 1)
He is in the SCA in the East Kingdom. He fences. Firebow said mention his name, Targai will know.

"By the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes.", Wm. Shakespeare, "Macbeth"

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I figured this was a fencing thing (4.00 / 1)
It usually is, LOL!

We're going to KWAR for the first time this year, BTW. Friends are helping us share expenses and it's nearby enough so that there's no excuse. If Firebow will be there, tell him to look for us.

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He'll be there. (4.00 / 1)


"By the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes.", Wm. Shakespeare, "Macbeth"

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Cool! (4.00 / 2)
(Adjusts plans to pack extra mead...)

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LOL (4.00 / 1)
We need to take this to e-mail. It is in my profile. ;-)

"By the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes.", Wm. Shakespeare, "Macbeth"

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thanks randgrithr (4.00 / 7)
Ive been meaning to purchase some New Zealand manuka honey for years. If you want to rec a vendor, please do.

Didnt know that about the stilton.

I can be a bit of a science-phobe but Ive always felt that about the fever stuff too.

No justice, no peace.


Manuka is difficult to get in the US (4.00 / 6)
Last I checked, health food stores had it for around $20 a pound. It's very concentrated, so it goes a long way. Greek "ambrosia" or Chinese "royal jelly" also works well for this.

Ordinary honey also works to boost the immune system.

Anyone who fails to see the historical parallels between Blackwater & the Nazi SS, or the DHS & the Gestapo, needs a serious reality check.


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Glad you clarified (4.00 / 9)
that antibiotics will not cure the flu. People get upset when their MD won't give them antibiotics without realizing that viruses cannot be fought with antibiotics and now pediatricians are often opting not to treat ear infections for little ones because studies have shown garden variety ear infections will clear up on their own.

Don't get me wrong I love antibiotics. When used appropriately they are literal life savers.

I am more worried about the panic over this flu season than the flu itself.


Understanding is the key (4.00 / 8)
Some of this stuff IS viral and yes, antibiotics don't cure everything. But the real killer in most 1918 H1N1 cases was a secondary bacterial infection:

The majority of deaths were from bacterial pneumonia, a secondary infection caused by influenza, but the virus also killed people directly, causing massive hemorrhages and edema in the lung."

Treating the fever, which is a natural bodily defense against the infection, without treating the infection CAUSING the fever can and will lead to death.

The real way to fight panic is to provide correct information for dealing with the problem. I'm trying to do that.

Anyone who fails to see the historical parallels between Blackwater & the Nazi SS, or the DHS & the Gestapo, needs a serious reality check.


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Yes however.... (4.00 / 5)
Any viral insult can cause a bacterial infection or lead to other processes like DIC. I think I might seem a bit blase at times because i work with patients who have compromised immune systems so the every day cold can kill them. I have a tendency to think of everything as being potentially deadly whether or not that is really accurate.

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I can't believe doctors... (4.00 / 5)
...would still recommend acetaminophen for anything. Recent findings confirm that nearly half of kidney failure is linked to overdose. Which is easy, since so many OTC meds contain it, and if you're taking more than one you're overdoing it.

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Actually it is liver failure (4.00 / 3)
which is very fatal. All patients coming in to the ER for overdoses and long term acetaminophen use, get a level request with their blood work, especially alcoholics and the elderly. It is highly overrated as a fever reducer and for pain management. I takes 8 grams to OD and there are no symptoms until it is too late to treat.  

"By the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes.", Wm. Shakespeare, "Macbeth"

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I think it's ibuprofen (advil) (4.00 / 1)
that can cause kidney damage, isn't it?

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Yes (4.00 / 2)
but it is much less toxic than acetaminophen. The cautions for ibuprofen are for people on blood thinners and with a history of gastrointestinal bleeding or ulcers. If it is taken it must be taken after eating something to avoid gastric irritation. Most medications should be taken after eating for that reason unless otherwise instructed.

"By the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes.", Wm. Shakespeare, "Macbeth"

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I've been taking it for years (4.00 / 2)
nearly every day, but I try to watch the amounts because I have only one kidney. It also has never bothered my stomach at all... and usually I take it without food.

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If you follow the dosing on the label (4.00 / 2)
it will not effect your kidney. Usually, you have had something to eat at some point within a couple of hours. Most people tolerate ibuprofen very well even without food but because it can be a gastric irritant, taking it after you have eaten is advisable.  

"By the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes.", Wm. Shakespeare, "Macbeth"

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It works pretty quickly (4.00 / 2)
first thing in the morning on a empty stomach with a cup of hot coffee. ;-)

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You are flirting with fire (4.00 / 3)
in your belly. ;-)

"By the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes.", Wm. Shakespeare, "Macbeth"

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Yeah.... (4.00 / 2)
I know... :-)

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Another sword for you (4.00 / 7)
my fellow Knight of the Veils.
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Thanks for bringing that important information to us! (4.00 / 2)
I had commented here on swine flu and the dangers of the vaccine being offered -- I don't know if you saw it.

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Ah, thanks, I hadn't seen it (4.00 / 4)
I have been extremely busy with both the NYCCAN activities (which are time sensitive) and the fielding of various ingredients for brewing. It's harvest season and various SCA folk are deluging me with black walnuts and pumpkins and varietal honey from Bermuda and other such delights in the hopes that I shall turn them into tasty beverages....

Anyone who fails to see the historical parallels between Blackwater & the Nazi SS, or the DHS & the Gestapo, needs a serious reality check.

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