Not al Qaeda, Collapse of the bush Administration!!!

(11 am. – promoted by ek hornbeck)

Looks like much more of the cheney/bush years are continuing to collapse, and All Done In Our Names. This may explain the widespread push, especially from republicans? in Congress, they’re figureheads around the Country and those connected to that administration but not in Government have so forcefully been pushing the fox nation types to rail against closing Gitmo and having No Trials of so called terrorist inside this Country and in our Courts. Courts of a supposedly Lawful Nation!

Truthout has updated an earlier report of what’s coming down.

US Recants Claims on “High-Value” Detainee Abu Zubaydah

30 March 2010

(Illustration: Jared Rodriguez / t r u t h o u t)

Editor’s Note: This story has been updated.

The Justice Department has quietly recanted nearly every major claim the Bush administration had made about “high-value” detainee Abu Zubaydah, a Guantanamo prisoner who at one time was said to have planned the 9/11 attacks and was the No. 2 and 3 person in al-Qaeda.

Additionally, Justice has backed away from some of the claims intelligence officials working in the Clinton administration had also leveled against Zubaydah, specifically, that he was directly involved in the planning of the 1998 embassy bombings in East Africa.

Zubaydah’s name is redacted in some instances in the 109-page court document the government filed in US District Court in Washington, DC in response to 213 discovery requests Zubaydah’s attorneys made in connection with his habeas corpus case, which sought evidence to support, among other Bush administration claims, that Zubaydah was a top al-Qaeda official and close confidant of Osama Bin Laden.

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His torture was videotaped and the tapes later destroyed. The destruction of 90 videotapes of his interrogations is the focus of a high-level criminal investigation being conducted by John Durham, a federal prosecutor appointed special counsel in 2008 by then-Attorney General Michael Mukasey.

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But court documents unclassified last week debunk Thiessen’s assertions. Moreover, the government acknowledges in its partially redacted filing that it does not rely on anything Zubaydah told his torturers after his March 2002 capture in Pakistan in arguing that he should continue to be detained.

The document also refutes every statement George W. Bush made publicly about Zubaydah, who the former president claimed was one of al-Qaeda’s “top operatives plotting and planning death and destruction on the United States.” –>–>–>

The above has already started getting not only legs but is already expanding rapidly into other cases.

Harkat gets bombshell help from declassified U.S. documents

U.S. report says his reputed al-Qaeda associate actually had no ties to terrorist group

April 1, 2010

Mohamed Harkat attends a rally at the Human Rights Monument in Ottawa March 27, 2010.

Photograph by: Chris Mikula, The Ottawa Citizen

OTTAWA-The federal government case against Ottawa terror suspect Mohamed Harkat appears to have suffered a significant blow Wednesday when a document was introduced in court showing that Abu Zubaydah, once considered a master terrorist and 9/11 mastermind, actually had nothing to do with the attacks.

Even more surprising, the document, which quotes U.S court filings declassified last week, shows that Zubaydah, once believed to be one of the top leaders in al-Qaeda, was not even a member of the terrorist group.

One of Harkat’s lawyers, Norm Boxall, said the information is significant because part of the government’s case against Harkat is that he is an associate of Zubaydah.

If Zubaydah has no ties to al-Qaeda, as now appears to be the case, a large chunk of the case against Harkat is under question.

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The document, a report under the byline of Jason Leopold, quoted U.S. court documents, which say the American government now admits that Zubaydah did not have “any direct role in or advance knowledge of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001,” and was neither a “member” of al-Qaeda nor “formally” identified with the terrorist organization.

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“The Government’s accounts frequently have been at variance with the actual facts, and the government has generally been loath to provide the facts until forced to do so,” Zubaydah’s attorney, Brent Mickum, is quoted in the article as saying.

“When the government was forced to present the facts in the form of a discovery in Zubaydah’s case, it realized that the game was over and there was no way it could support the Bush administration’s baseless allegations,” he is quoted as saying.  –>–>–>

Add to this news All those who were renditioned and either sent to Gitmo or kept in other countries clandestine prisons, most being tortured, then released after given no trials nor even shown any documents etc. as to why they were taken away from their homes and countries and held for years!

Some will still try and say many of those who’ve been released have ‘returned’ to the battlefields of the occupations. First most of these detainees weren’t picked up on any ‘battlefields’, many were grabbed in places like the cities of Pakistan, which wasn’t a third front of war yet as far as we were concerned. Next, who in their right mind wouldn’t think that if just released, after being incarcerated far away from family and home, tortured numerous times, held with zero contact with anyone especially family and lawyers as well as human rights groups, that some would choose to seek retaliation and blowback against those that held them!!

This came out the other day and gives a small glimpse into the mindset of the bush administration.

And they say our torturing was carried out by rouge soldiers and private contractors, what was it, oh ya, College Pranksters!!

Baha Mousa inquiry: US concerned about ‘milder’ British methods in Iraq


30 March 2010 Senior UK intelligence officer warned of concerns just as Iraqi civilian died in British custody

The UK’s most senior military intelligence officer in Iraq warned that the US was expressing concern about the ineffectiveness of British interrogation methods just as an Iraqi civilian died in British custody, it was disclosed today.

The implication of the warning, revealed in evidence to the inquiry into the death of Basra hotel worker Baha Mousa in 2003, was that the US wanted British forces to adopt tougher techniques even though they were already using methods officially banned by the government.

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Clapham also warned about breaching the Geneva conventions and about criticism from the Red Cross of the treatment of Iraqi detainees by British soldiers. Mousa died after suffering asphyxia.

It is unclear whether Duncan or Clapham knew of the death when they exchanged their emails. The US was concerned that “UK interrogation was not producing results in Iraq”, Duncan told the inquiry today .

“There was an ongoing issue in relation to views expressed by the US military and civilian intelligence community that the UK intelligence elements were not obtaining enough information and intelligence from prisoners held by UK forces.” –>–>–>

They accomplished what they set out to do, Perpetual War and Criminal Terrorism for the decades coming and in doing so gave this bin Laden all that he stated he wanted as to his once little group of criminal terrorist. Thus ensuring a never ending fear of and the creation of hatreds that leads to an enemy element, ensuring profits for the defense contractors and war profiteers for the foreseeable future and long after!!

As well as the rapid creation of domestic criminal terror mentality within our borders!

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  1. Knew anything, or even suspected, about this and any other falsifying intelligence and made up propaganda, He Should Be Strip Of His Uniform As A JAG And Indicted Along With The Rest!!!

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  3. …. recanting the Bush & Cheney administration 9/11 rationale and storyline.

    Have been following this a long time, after I read, wrote, and linked Jason Leopold and Marcy Wheeler’s stories, and thinking about the significance of it, I told my spouse (who is not into politics that much at all) that a very large story was breaking ever so quietly.  

  4. there are still a few die-hard Bush/Cheney fans out there.  Marc Maron interviews former Planet Bush Bureau Chief Lawton Smalls, who predicts two more terms for George W. Bush, starting in 2012…

  5. Bin Laden wanted to bankrupt the USA, not bomb it to death.

    Frankly, I think his job is done now.

    Jim – I LOVE YOUR WRITING AND RESEARCH.  I READ ALL OF YOU I CAN.  So know this, even though I have not commented over the last year plus, KNOW THAT YOUR WORK IS APPRECIATED AND VALUED.  Not all of us can comment, for various reasons.

    Daddy was a WWII Rifleman.  BIG TIME.  

    Know what he said about Bush, around 9/11?

    “BUSH WILL BRING WAR HERE.”

    Daddy-O was BIG TIME RIGHT.

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