‘Jesus Rifles’, Again!!!

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ABC News is doing a follow up on their initial report on the ‘Jesus Rifles’ with the christian religious inscriptions on military rifle scopes, still being used and which goes beyond the ones used in the military. While a rifle scope is part of the military kit for their soldiers (view website here for an example), the inscription is highly debated.

This cut is in the report and video of:

“Shame on them forever for their impossibly slow, plodding and utterly backwards plan for correction of this national and international disgrace,” said Mikey Weinstein of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF).

Couldn’t have stated it better, in a civil manner, except I’d use much more stronger words and with more rage especially as to the thought process by the manufacturing executives allowing this but also any who think this shines a positive light in fighting an insurgency in another’s country, of their own freedom of religious beliefs, and especially that it gives a positive, macho, message as to any christian religious ideology. It smacks of extreme christian fundamentalism as the fundamentalist of the Muslim religion or any other’s with extremist views of intolerance towards others!

Military: It Could Take A Year To Fix ‘Jesus Rifles’

March 30, 2010 U.S. Troops in Afghanistan Still Carrying Guns With Secret Bible Codes

More than two months after an ABC News report that rifle scopes used by U.S. soldiers are inscribed with secret Biblical references, troops in Afghanistan  and Iraq are still carrying the so-called Jesus rifles – and the U.S. military says it could take a year to remove the Bible codes from all its weapons.


In August of 2005 Trijicon was awarded a $660 million dollar, multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 of its Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight (ACOG) to the U.S. Marine Corps. According to Trijicon, the ACOG is “designed to function in bright light, low light or no light conditions,” and is “ideal for combat due to its high degree of discrimination, even among multiple moving targets.” At the end of the scope’s model number, you can read “JN8:12”, which is a reference to the New Testament book of John, Chapter 8, Verse 12, which reads: “Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” (King James Version) (ABC News)

Under what is known as “General Order Number One” {My Addin: six page pdf of general orders from March 13 2006} U.S. military rules specifically prohibit “proselytizing of any faith, religion, or practice.” The rules were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious “Crusade” in its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“It’s wrong, it violates the Constitution, it violates a number of federal laws,” said Weinstein, an attorney and former Air Force officer. “It allows the Mujahadeen, the Taliban, al Qaeda and the insurrectionists and jihadists to claim they’re being shot by Jesus rifles.”

A worldwide furor erupted in January after the existence of the Bible codes was reported by ABC News. Countries around the world, including Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Israel and Great Britain, announced plans to remove the Bible codes from their Trijicon-supplied scopes.

At the time, the U.S. military said it had been unaware of the markings until notified of them by ABC News.


“It’s not just embarrassing to have these “Jesus rifles” with us but it’s also a serious security threat to all of us,” reads one e-mail that Weinstein said MRFF received from a service member in Afghanistan  . “When we walk into an Afghan village trying to determine whether it’s ‘friend or foe’ regarding the Taliban etc. and they ask us right off the bat if we are using the ‘Jesus rifles’ it is a VERY BAD way to start out considering our combat mission.”  


Weinstein said he recently heard from a father of a service member in Afghanistan  who was not willing to wait. The father, said Weinstein, was “fuming mad that his son is being placed in harm’s way by something that could be fixed in less than 30 seconds.” According to Weinstein, the father said he went to a Home Depot  and bought thin black duct tape for his son and his battalion so that they could stick the tape over the scripture passages themselves. “The father said he just sent the 101st fix kit over,” said Weinstein. –>–>–>

How to add to the creation of Hatreds thus Enemies that are fighting our soldiers while occupying their country, and damaging our National Security further as to civilians anywhere in extension of the blowback from these occupations and our past and present policies. This is beyond any sick joke this manufacturers execs thought nor even a positive use of any so called religious ideology!

Religious Freedom extends to any and all religious ideologies especially in their own countries. One of many ways we prove their once propaganda, or what we say is their propaganda, towards us by making it a Fact, like so many issues, policies and words, carried out over the past decade as to our actions towards others on this planet!!

Someone explain how this manufacturers execs, and others, as well as gun sellers, like the one laughing about this in the video, and buyers who seek out these embedded messages on their weapons that can kill, any different than the militia group rounded up this past weekend and their ideology as to their so called jesus militia! The only thing these wanna be rambo’s did is extend their own extremist fears, while running around in the woods, into plans to mass murder others and those others were police officers who work for the safety of us all not some twisted religious ideology out to destroy them!

Get used to the New Old Face of American Domestic Terrorism

Suspected in a conspiracy to attack police officers are, from left to right, top row: David Stone, Sr.; David Stone, Jr.; Tina Stone and Jacob Ward. Left to right, bottom row: Michael Meeks; Joshua Clough; Kristopher Sickles and Thomas Piatek.

Feds: Militia members sought to spark uprising. Last of 9 arrested after search in Mich.; they allegedly plotted to kill police –>–>–>

Religion is used as just one of many excuses to hate others, it’s also used to inflame the fears when readily connected to any war or invasion occupation of others, as these two still ongoing occupations have been from the beginning, who have their own freedom of religious belief different then what’s perceived, or being forced, to be ours. This past decade has nothing to do with Any religious ideology, but we readily joined in the extremism of those using religion, theirs the far extreme of the Muslim faith, to justify their actions by forcing the perceived religious ideology, false idea of our country being a Christian Nation, of this country as the reason we invaded and occupy them!

War has nothing to do with religious ideology, no religion, and religion is not an excuse to kill and destroy others!

Muslim fundamentalism is no different then Christian fundamentalism when they are carried to the extreme!!


    • TMC on March 30, 2010 at 20:23

    has a great op-ed in the Washington Post

    The episode highlights the obvious: For decades now, the most serious threat of domestic terrorism has come from the growing ranks of paranoid, anti-government hate groups that draw their inspiration, vocabulary and anger from the far right.

    It is disingenuous for mainstream purveyors of incendiary far-right rhetoric to dismiss groups such as the Hutaree by saying that there are “crazies on both sides.” This simply is not true.


    (But) for the most part, far-left violence in this country has gone the way of the leisure suit and the AMC Gremlin. An anti-globalization movement, including a few window-smashing anarchists, was gaining traction at one point, but it quickly diminished after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. An environmental group and an animal-rights group have been linked with incidents of arson. Beyond those particulars, it is hard to identify any kind of leftist threat.


    It is dishonest for right-wing commentators to insist on an equivalence that does not exist. The danger of political violence in this country comes overwhelmingly from one direction — the right, not the left. The vitriolic, anti-government hate speech that is spewed on talk radio every day — and, quite regularly, at Tea Party rallies — is calibrated not to inform but to incite.

    Demagogues scream at people that their government is illegitimate, that their country has been “taken away,” that their elected officials are “traitors” and that their freedom is at risk. They have a right to free speech, which I will always defend. But they shouldn’t be surprised if some listeners take them literally.

    The whole piece is a great read.

  1. … being applied to it.   If the JN8:12 couldn’t be flattened with a hot stick, perhaps something could be melted on top of it to obliterate it.

    Wouldn’t take but a few seconds for the creatively inclined.  I would hate to see these troops being endangered because of some culturally ignorant contracting manufacturer dipsh*t here in the States.

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