Real News Network – Climate Debate

Part One (posted December 17):

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Part Two (posted December 18):

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Part Three (posted December 20):

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Daniel J. Weiss is making a very disingenuous argument in his “we should only go for what’s possible” approach.  He keeps falling back on the “perfect is the enemy of the good” line, as though anyone seriously expects or asks for perfection.  He also ignores that when Medicare, Social Security, the Civil Rights Act, and the Clean Air Act were passed, the political environment was very different – Republicans could be rolled far more easily than they can be today.  What’s more, by starting with the accommodation first and working down from there, substantive policies are not being passed.  Weiss doesn’t even acknowledge the obvious tactical reality at work: obviously demanding everything from the start is not going to get us everything, but it can lead us to some actual compromise that everyone can live with.  Daphne Wysham, who is advocating for stronger policies and takes the opposite argument, could have done a bit more to press the counterarguments I just mentioned, but overall it was a spirited and informative discussion.  It’s certainly nothing like what you’d see on any of the cable news programs.


  1. a top of the list, number one testament to the Darwin Awards for humanity.  Copenhagen didn’t crash hard enough.  I was hoping for that “terrorist” mushroom cloud, a sudden development of D225N,G mutant melt your lungs out 99.9% lethality rate swine flu or perhaps more appropriate a climate change induced tidal wave but no.  Evil globalist scumbags met once again in security lock down mode to have an orgasm over financial dominance and control over people based upon a CO2 fallacy.  What is the real target here?  3M6B.  The resources consumed by “us” will be “re-allocated” to far more profitable areas of the world all of the liberal touchy feelie civil rights be damned.  Globo-corp in all it’s totalitarian fascism is going to own your peasant ass in ways you can’t even fathom yet.

    • Xanthe on December 21, 2009 at 22:17

    That’s a good meme – works for healthcare too.  But the healthcare mantra seems to be Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the yada yada yada.

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