President Obama was wrong

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    “Insurance executives don’t do this because they’re bad people; they do it because it’s profitable.”

President Obama – 9/9/09

     With all due respect, Mister President, I beg to disagree.

     Therefore, I submit this as evidence to the fact that Insurance Executives are in fact bad people, very, very bad people.

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    As you can see, our 9/11 heroes who ran into the burning flames of the WTC and survived can be denied insurance because of their occupation. An expecting father can be denied health care insurance. He might as well be having the baby himself, in their opinions, and, if that were the case, they would still deny him coverage anyway.

    Therefore, I respectfully disagree with what you have said, President Obama. I understand why you said it, after all Insurance Execs are people too. At least, one must assume so.

    With all due respect, Mr. President, I appreciate your attempt to avoid demonizing anybody, even Insurance Executives, as I assume you do so for the sake of decency, President Obama, really, I do. I understand that it is beneath the office of the President to do so. I simply disagree with your statement, but with respect, of course.

    So I will say it for you.

    Not only are insurance execs bad people who do what they do for profit, they are clueless, heartless, greedy bastards who would let you die for a dollar. That is not just bad, I’d say it’s evil, but since you can’t say that, Mr. President, I will for you.

    Insurance Executives are EVIL, greedy, clueless, heartless leeches who would sooner watch your family die than lose a dollar of profit, profits that go to pay their big, fat salaries.

     More of the cold, hard Truth below the fold, and a call to action as well.


    Yesterday in a speech, First Lady Michelle Obama addressed these disparities:

    Women are affected because, as we heard, in many states, insurance companies can still discriminate because of gender.
And this is still shocking to me. These are the kind of facts that still wake me up at night; that women in this country have been denied coverage because of preexisting conditions like having a C-section or having had a baby. In some states, it is still legal to deny a woman coverage because she’s been the victim of domestic violence.

    And a recent study showed that 25-year-old women are charged up to 45 percent more for insurance than 25-year-old men for the exact same coverage. And as the age goes up, you get to 40, that disparity increases to 48 percent – 48 percent difference for women for the exact same coverage in this country

    And as for the clueless, money hungry, heartless lizard people who call themselves Health Insurance Executives, the following video should prove as evidence to the fact that while they live in big mansions and pull down multi-million dollar salaries, they are either clueless to the suffering that they cause to their fellow man We The People, or as their sort calls us the Sans Culottes, OR, they just don’t give a shit, and lie with straight faces.

    I am inclined to believe that it is the latter.

    A recent Harvard study found that medical debt contributed to 62 percent of U.S. personal bankruptcies in 2007 and that 78 percent of bankruptcy filers burdened by healthcare expenses had health insurance but “still were overwhelmed by their medical debt.” However these executives – representing United Healthcare Group, Wellpoint, Aetna, Humana, and CIGNA – sat tight lipped as Conyers asked them about the statistics.

“Ever hear of that,” Conyers asked, starring down at the silent executives before him. “Nobody’s heard of that, okay,” Coyers observed, somewhat incredulously after a moment of silence, before asking, “if you heard and learned about that, would that cast some concerns on the problems individuals are going through that the largest cause of individual bankruptcies in the United States are due to medical bills that people couldn’t afford, you’d be concerned?”

Four executives nodded in agreement.

      Clueless, heartless, detached bastards who live in gated Versailles communities while We The Proletariat

must beg for Insurance bread in the streets, and go hungry if we can’t afford the blood money.

      They are not just bad people, their are frigging evil, whether they know it or not, and it is exactly douchenozzles like these that are dragging our country down to a thrid world/first world status. If we can’t pass a reform that costs them their precious profit, let’s just make this an official serfdom and be done with the notion of shamocracy.

    Still, like a fool, I hold out for hopes sake, and continue to fight.

“. . .  Insurance companies are not only encouraged to find reasons to drop the seriously ill, they are rewarded for it.  All of this is in service of meeting what this former executive called “Wall Street’s relentless profit expectations.”

President Obama – 9/9/09

     They are rewarded for it, aren’t they? Insurance Execs get to earn top dollar salaries, live in big expensive mansions while they lobby Congress with the same money that they deny their customers when they get sick and need health insurance. And they’re about to be rewarded with 40 million + brand new customers. All for the simple crime of murdering people for money. What a racket! Working for an insurance company is better than being a banker as far as white collar crimes go. Even the bankers can’t say “Your money and/or your life” and get away with it. Hell, it isn’t even a crime! What they do is perfectly legal, somehow.

    This sunday we saw President Obama do the talk show rounds. We heard him make the statement that the Public Option is not dead as it has been widely reported by those who wish it were. President Obama refuted that, but didn’t make the case for why it should not die.

     But President Obama DID make the case for why we absolutly MUST mandate that every American has health insurance by law.

     I will put it plainly, if we can not pass a reform that does not benefit the reformed first, I WILL be putting my political foot up the electoral ass of every incumbent Democrat that I can.

     And I invite you to do the same. Hell, I’ll BEG you to do it.

Tell your Elected Democratic Congressmen that Private Insurers should NOT be REWARDED for causing this disaster with 40 Million + new customers.

      If this Congress WON’T give us a Public Option, if they FORCE us to Buy Crap Insurance from the Crooks that caused this mess, they can COUNT ME OUT of all my help in 2010 and 2012

Call Congress Toll Free at 1 800 828 0498

    Please CONTACT your House Representative , you can search for their contact information here or call (202) 225-1904.


      Please CONTACT your Senators , Click Click here to go to the Official Senate webpage where you can find contact information for your Senators

    As for President Obama and his statements quoted above, I fully understand why he said what he said. President Obama wishes to be the better man and show the respect to his office that it deserves. President Obama CAN NOT say that Insurers are bad people.

    But I can . . .

    annd you can too, and should . .

    But don’t tell me, tell your Senators and Representatives, and let them know what you will do if they feed you to he crooks that caused this mess.

    As for me, if you’ve been reading my diaries lately you’ll know my answer to what should happen if the Dems in Congress force feed us to the private insurers.

    Suffice it to say, I am keeping my pitchforks handy, and my torches ready to be lit.

Thank you,


    Also crossposted at The Progressive


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    • rb137 on September 21, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    You’re right that Obama “cannot” say this — so we really have to. Anyone who makes a profit from inflicting abject misery on others is a bad person.

    • allenjo on September 21, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    He is the final word and we should hold him as accountable as anyone else, well, more so really.

    He does so much waffling. Sometimes it is difficult to know what he stands for any longer.

  2. without competition, the price of insurance goes up and quality goes down.  And it makes it easier for insurance companies to treat their customers badly — by cherry-picking the healthiest individuals and trying to drop the sickest, by overcharging small businesses who have no leverage, and by jacking up rates.

    Insurance executives don’t do this because they’re bad people; they do it because it’s profitable.  As one former insurance executive testified before Congress, insurance companies are not only encouraged to find reasons to drop the seriously ill, they are rewarded for it.  All of this is in service of meeting what this former executive called “Wall Street’s relentless profit expectations.”

    blaming the system instead of the criminals.

    < /Archie Bunker snark>

  3. A couple of things to do.  

    Tomorrow, the Senate Finance Committee will have a hearing at 9:00 a.m., to consider an original bill providing for health care reform.  Here’s a list of the committee members.  Note also:  About the Committee in the menu to the left.

    So, in addition to calling your Senators, I think it would be good to call these Finance Committee members, as well.  

    Here’s what I intend to say:


    or something to that effect.  We cannot sit here and have a wretched piece of legislation that, in current form, is guaranteed to kick us all in the teeth once again if we don’t react WITH OUTRAGE!


    Next, has a letter to your Senators.  I signed on and hope that you will, too.  You can do so here:

    • BruceMcF on September 22, 2009 at 12:16 am

    … this is not happening due to Health Insurance Executives being evil people. Its neither a few nor a large number of “bad apples”. Its not personal sociopathy at all that is responsible for this.

    And that is true despite the fact that the majority of Health Insurance Executives are, indeed, evil people, even if it is often the banal form of evil, the kind of evil of someone engineering a better air tight seal for a death camp killing chamber and pretending to themselves that they do not know what it will be used for …

    … but it is not the evil of the people the causes this. It is the evil of the corporate institution itself when it is unleashed of all external restraint and let loose on the world.

    Good men in charge of the evil of unfettered corporations would save some more people, but they would not save the majority killed in the current system. Not unless they actually rebelled against the institution itself, and broke the law that makes it so often illegal to do the right thing.

    I will add, however, that I am agreeing with one reading of the President’s words, here … good tame Hedge Fund Democratic politician that he is, I doubt that he meant them to be read that way.

  4. is easily shown by Obama’s cabinet membership and it’s primary allegance to globalist oriented organizations.

    So yes, Obama will always be wrong.

  5. Must have a public option or it defeats the purpose.

    • banger on September 22, 2009 at 3:26 am

    I don’t think anyone is, deep down, evil and I believe that people can redeem themselves eventually. Insurance executives (with maybe some exceptions), as a practical matter, are evil. They deliberately and consciously do things that are life-threatening and misery-inducing to other human beings for money and power. If they aren’t evil then the word has no meaning.

    • jamess on September 22, 2009 at 3:31 am

    Great post MoT.

    “Evil” is more than

    Live spelled backwards.

    Evil Executives systematically victimize,

    those the more vulnerable among us.

    Those without hope, and nowhere else to turn.

    to wit …

    If you’re going to need Health Care anytime soon, make sure you don’t “get” any of these more “costly” conditions:

    breast cancer, lymphoma, pregnancy, or high blood pressure.

    If you do, it will put you on the Insurer’s Radar, for possible Policy Cancellation …

    The Ailments that put you on the Insurer’s Drop List

    Denial Specialists scour your medical history, and cross-check that against your application, looking for any reason to Cancel, or rescind, your Insurance policy, thus saving the Insurance Company untold thousands in future payments for your expected Care. Denial Specialists, of course, earn bonuses for each Policy they cancel. What a system!

    Those 4 illnesses (out of the 1000+ such Triggers) previously disclosed are:

    breast cancer, high blood pressure, lymphoma and pregnancy

    The Insurer’s Drop List, keeps growing …

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