Torturer admits torture costs American lives

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Well, isn’t this just a great news day for this to come out.  Between the SCOTUS nomination and the Prop 8 brou-ha-ha, nobody is gonna hear about this:

A man who is actually one of the men who conducts the “interrogations” in question admits that it cost “hundreds, if not thousands” of American lives.

Dick Cheney and every Republican and Noise Machine Pundit out there is a LIAR (gee, what a surprise):…

“Torture does not save lives,” Alexander said in his interview. “And the reason why is that our enemies use it, number one, as a recruiting tool…These same foreign fighters who came to Iraq to fight because of torture and abuse….literally cost us hundreds if not thousands of American lives.”

In other words, the Cheney/Bush/neocon policy of torturing people is, in fact, throwing fuel on the fire of terrorism.

Literally creating terrorists.

Who can blame them?  What if the tables were turned, and foreign troops had invaded, say, Florida and began torturing Americans?  I’d hazard to say an awful lot of people would take it upon themselves to do whatever they had to do in order to get back at those doing the torture.  To inflict damage.  To get revenge.

It’s just common sense.

But no, in the fantasy-world of the Republicans, torture is something that good and just people do, perpetuated against The Truly Evil (brown-skinned people with a different religion) in order to get The Noble Truth and reveal even More Evil People.

The fellow admitting this common-sense fact is not some volvo-driving latte-sipping bearded college professor, he’s actually one of the guys who conducts the “interrogations”:

A 14-year military interrogator has undercut one of the key arguments posited by Vice President Dick Cheney in favor of the Bush Administration’s torture techniques and alleged that the use of torture has cost “hundreds if not thousands” of American lives.

The interrogator, who uses the name “Matthew Alexander,” says he oversaw more than 1,000 interrogations, conducting more than 300 in Iraq personally. His statements are captured in a new video by Brave New Films (below).

So there you have it.  

The torturers themselves are admitting that it does exactly the OPPOSITE of what its supposed intention:

It’s killing Americans.

Torture by Americans kills Americans.  A lot of Americans.  

That’s the new fact.  Let’s see if anyone is actually interested in the facts.

Please spread this far and wide.  C&P this if you want.   Just get it out there.  


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    • Inky99 on May 26, 2009 at 20:22

    torturing people is the way to do it.  

  1. … the Conservatives’ Darling of the Iraq War has added his voice in opposition to Cheney and his pro-torture position. Beyond Colin Powell and despite his high approval ratings, this Petraeus turn hurts their cause even more, as he was held on such a pedestal among the pro-war The surge workedTM crowd.

    It’s good to see Brave New Films putting Alexander out front, given his active credentials, but, since he can’t use his real name for security reasons, having an identifiable hero of the neocon crowd backing him up nicely reinforces his message.  

  2. important piece to focus on when arguing for an investigation.  However, if seeing pictures of tortured humans and admittance by right wing conservatives that waterboarding is torture doesn’t sway people, nothing will.  I’ve talked about this with neighbors, store clerks, you name it, and unless someone is politically active, their eyes glaze over and they really don’t want to discuss it.  

    • sharon on May 26, 2009 at 23:30

    the diarist has analyzed dod and other documents re interrogations and has put together a time line of torture in iraq.  it is long and disturbing but an important read.

  3. is there ANYTHING we would prosecute them for?

    Are they completely above the law now?

  4. but it’s good you did.

    After all, we live in a country wherein when it comes out that young boys are injured and raped in front of their parents, in order to gain information, the “rational and reasonable response” is NOT to arrest the perpetrators, but rather to simply suppress the photos.

    I do take a small bit of solace in the fact that future generations are going to judge this one very harshly.

    • zett on May 27, 2009 at 16:31

    I thought he was one of the ones that conducted normal interrogations.


  5. has made the world a very dangerous place. You cannot hurt, abuse, and torture anyone. You just can’t.

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