Guantanamo! (Update)

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Update:  Some of you have seen the documentary, some have not.  At any rate, if you would like to share your thoughts about it, why not do it here?  Some comments are already remarking on it at the bottom.  It would be interesting to see how others think and feel about this documentary, as well.


Tomorrow,  Sunday, April 5, 2009, National Geographic Society, will air a documentary entitled “Inside Guantanamo,” 8 PM CST or Wednesday, April 8, 7 PM CST – Check your local listings.  *Also, there are other optional times for viewing.

The video below is a panel, with Chris Wallace hosting, from FOX News.  Note the National Geographic logos. in the background.  In his opening remarks, Wallace refers to the detainees as some of the most notorious!  I have only watched bits of it, as right in the beginning, this Col. Donald Woolfolk (now retired), in charge of interrogations at Guantanamo, categorically denies there was any torture during his tenure there.  I had to shut it down, I became so angry.  Then, I watched a little here and a little there.  I have always admired National Geographic in so many respects, but when I heard this comment from the Col., I became concerned, “will National Geographic do a whitewash of Guantanamo? Have they sold out, too?”  Those thoughts prompted me to try and find out who are the directors, trustees, etc.  I found this, which is quite interesting, I think.  Tracy Wolstencroft is an appointment to the Board of Trustees.  He has been a partner at Goldman Sachs since 1994.   Also, I watched a little of the preview on NGS — I am concerned that it may turn out to be a kind of a neutralization of reality.

Well, we can’t be sure what the purpose of such a panel is, and, maybe, National Geographic will be an honest documentary — we’ll have to wait and see.

Video follows!

“Inside Guantanamo” Panel Discussion”

You will note, too, that National Geographic has this panel discussion video with Chris Wallace, on its front page, as well.

I urge everyone to watch this documentary, if possible.  We certainly then can exchange our thoughts right here about the documentary and, if need be, prepare to respond to its content.

(As far as I know, there is no live web-streaming for this documentary.)  

*(Sunday, April 5,  at ll:00 p.m., Weds., April 8, at 10:00 p.m., Sunday, April 12, 1:00 p.m., Weds., April 15, 3:00 p.m.)  


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  1. give me a fuzzy, warm feeling!  And you?

    • Alma on April 5, 2009 at 01:27

    of National Geographic tv productions a few years ago when I saw a piece they did on Saddam that had a whole lot of propaganda in it instead of facts, or inconclusives.

  2. Ill go view the video next.

    Ive been reading the website and … well as Rachel says, my hair is about to light a-fire. heh.

    Who IS this person??? Stacy?

    “”(9:18pm) Stacy: General Woolfork in continuing this ‘was there torture’ debate, explains some of the processes for new detainees arriving at Guantanamo. Getting a physical examination includes having a dentist look at their teeth. He argues some detainees would say this is torture because many had never been to a dentist. As a side, Guantanamo has better healthcare than me.”

    Oh I see. Barbara Bush re-visited.

  3. I dont know about you but this one gives me the creeps.

    Big time.


  4. according to the dkos Front Page announcement… didnt say what time though.

    What went wrong at Guantanamo? Easier to ask what didn’t, and author Karen Greenberg (executive director of the Center on Law and Security, NYU School of Law) is the person to provide many of the answers. She’ll be liveblogging with mcjoan about her book,  The Least Worst Place: Guantanamo’s First 100 Days.

  5. Thanks for the info.

    Personally, I don’t think I’ll visit McJoan.  Reason?  I don’t give a gd what went wrong at Guantanamo, other than the fact that it went wrong. What I mean is, it was well perceived, even before “detainees” were brought to this country, how they were going to be dealt with.  To think otherwise is only to delude oneself!  

    I don’t know what it will take for Americans to wake up and discover that most of all that happened were well planned out events of how we would handle things “globally” and “domestically.”  And, anyone who thinks differently simply lives in a different world!

  6. We really need to be on top of this — right now, as we are trying to gain momentum for an investigation, this TV documentary will be out and aired with some frequency, as you can see.  We must be ready to respond.  I don’t think it’s an accident, do you?

    And, sad to say, most people, as did I, take National Geographic for “gospel” — this is a HUGE problem in that respect.  How can we explain that yet, another “icon” of our history, has been “bastardized?”

    • Alma on April 6, 2009 at 00:33

  7. why not bring your thoughts about it here, so we can discuss?  I know I have some thoughts!!!!!!

    • Alma on April 6, 2009 at 20:18

    but they sure seemed to minimize the torture, and play on the “Look what our soldiers have to go through”.

    If my only info was watching that first hour, I would think we only used harsh interrogation tactics there for a few weeks, and that no harm was done.

    I think some of the pictures told the real story though.  The shots of them being transported hooded made my blood boil.  

  8. will post some comments later.  I have some very strong thoughts about it!!!!

    I think I’ll update this to invite people to come and give their thoughts, what do you think about that?

  9. I’ll do it the update in a little bit. My comments will come later.  

    What’s the “r” for?

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