No On Hate! (CA Prop 8)

Just a little last minute reminder in support of….well ALL of us who value freedom and justice, but specifically to echo and reinforce Meteor Bladesover on the GOS.

As he says:

Denying due process is what Proposition 8 is all about. It’s not a protection of marriage. It’s not a law to block “special interests.” It’s simply another effort to undermine equal rights. Human rights. No surprise that the Yes on 8 people would lie about that. Nor that they would falsely claim that various politicians, including Barack Obama, support the proposition.


If you’re a Californian or know a Californian who is tempted not to vote because the polls show Obama ahead in the state by 20+ points, don’t stay home. Proposition 8 is another reason to remember that every vote counts.

This is the worst of the worst of the Right Wing and the Culture Wars. If there is ANYTHING you can do to defeat it at this late date….DO IT!


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    Let’s defeat this slime.

    • Robyn on November 3, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    But it has been uphill all the way.  Maybe uphill both ways.

    • Edger on November 3, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    It’s fucking stupid. It comes back on you if you do it.

    It’s worse than stupid. It’s idiotic. It’s retarded.

    It’s self hatred.

    • WSComn on November 3, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    Anyone who doubts it, check out the campaign verbiage for Prop 8 in CA or Prop 2 in MI.

    They admit they’re lying but they don’t care.  They think god gives them the right to lie because someone ‘connected’ says it’s for a greater good.  Bullshit.  They have no greater good for they have no stable ground to stand on.  They just lie.  We know why they lie.  They have no argument.  Without facts to back their position all they would have are lies.  Lies and determination.  They just want it to be so and as far as they’re concerned we can all just go f*ck ourselves if we don’t like it.

    And that, my friend, is the behavior of little children.

    It’s time to stop giving in to these little kids.  

    No on 8…Yes on 2.


    • Valtin on November 3, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    keep trying to push this religious crap down our throats. They don’t care that Prop 8 will hurt innocent children (in same-sex marriages), not help children. Just like their bogus propaganda about being “pro-life”, while not caring a damn about the living.

    No on 8! Absolutely. And, in a more moderate tone than this comment, please, if you have relatives in California, as I do, please call them and do some one-on-one electioneering. If you win over even one more vote, it will be worth it.

  2. Please help me out, I’m no Constitutional scholar, but doesn’t the 14th Amendment guarantee everyone equal protection under the Law? If that is the case, shit like this should not even be on the ballot. And the death cult followers who put it on the ballot need a huge cup of STFU.

  3. there are other ballot initiatives out there where we can take a stand against the culture wars. Here’s a quick summary.

    Abortion, affirmative action and gay marriage promise to be the hot-button social issues among the 139 ballot propositions in 33 states on Election Day, Nov. 4.

    South Dakota and Colorado have initiatives seeking to ban abortion on their ballots.  The South Dakota initiative seeks to ban abortion except in cases of rape or incest. Colorado’s Amendment 48 seeks to ban abortion with no exceptions for cases of rape or incest.

    Colorado and Nebraska voters will decide on affirmative action. The initiatives specify that the state will not grant preferential or discriminatory treatment to anyone based on race, sex, color, ethnicity or national origin in public employment, contracting or education.

    Gay marriage is on the ballot in California, Arizona and Florida. California’s Proposition 8 seeks to reverse the state’s ruling that same-sex couples have the right to marry. Arizona and Florida will consider constitutional amendments banning gay marriage.

    • robodd on November 3, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    The CA Supreme Court blew its opportunity to regulate the initiative process when it allowed this appear on the ballot.  Challenges to fundamental Constitutional (states have Constitutions) rights have no place on a ballot.

    The CA initiative process is being badly abused.  The court should have and, if passed, must, intervene to prevent this abuse.

  4. . . . a new No On 8 ad has appeared on California TV, showing Barack Obama (at last!) as well as Schwarzenegger and Dianne Feinstein with the No On 8 logo.  

    I think this, along with other strong recent No-On-8 ads featuring Feinstein, Jack O’Connell (California’s superintendent of public instruction), and Samuel L. Jackson, will help turn back the Yes tide.  A chart at shows that the Yes vote peaked in mid-October, before the strong new ads started appearing, and that the Yes side never did get to 50.  I don’t think it can pass–but I sure would breathe a lot easier if the No margin were higher!

  5. What a nasty, mean, bigoted, biased, discriminatory provision to try to re-write into the state constitution.  As I’ve said before, and will repeat again now just because I’m so angry about this, Prop 8 has nothing whatsoever to do with “defending” marriage or anything else.  It has to do solely with imposing hatred on a large group of people and impelling families with children to suffer a punitive, involuntary divorce.  This is shameful in every regard and must be stopped.

    I wish I were in Cali rather than in NY so I could go door to door on this one.  I wish I had more $$ I could give.

    It’s important to call all of our friends and relatives in Cali to tell them that even if Obama is going to get 75% of the popular vote in Cali, we still need them to STFIL and vote NO on Prop 8.  Many individuals and many families are depending on them.

    • dkmich on November 3, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    “go fuck himself”.

    Purple Finger

  6. The Satan Must Approve All Marriages Act.  Wonderful.

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