Friday Night at 8: The Kids

I watched Godzilla movies with my dad when I was a little girl and I didn’t know anything about the atomic bomb and World War II, so I drank up the radioactive born monsters and cheered for them because they seemed sort of likable to me.

In sixth grade I mentioned to someone that I didn’t really think people in the Soviet Union walked around with balls and chains on their ankles, they were probably just like us, and the next day when I walked into the classroom everyone yelled out “Commie!” at me … not really in a mean way, just school hijinks, and I laughed, too, I liked the attention and clowned around about it.  I didn’t know much at all about the Soviet Union or the United States, for that matter.

In another class, still in junior high, I commented that maybe the young people who went into the Peace Corps became radical afterwards because they found they had been lied to by our history books and our schools and communities, and that if they had been taught the truth about our role in the world those young people would have done a way better job in all those different countries where instead they ended up seeing a very different America than they had been raised to know.

I got the “love it or leave it” response from some of my classmates, which I met with the utter obnoxious scorn of a typical junior high student.

But I didn’t really know what went on in any of those countries.

So what was it that I did know?

Well, maybe the Godzilla movies were supposed to be a cautionary tale against the A-Bomb, but to me they told a different story, one about not being deceived by appearances.  That sometimes the monster wasn’t the ugliest or scariest looking life form in the movie.

As for the politics, that’s harder to figure out.  I was no more informed than any of my other lower middle class schoolmates, we were all savages who didn’t care at all about “current events.”  Yep, that’s what we thought of them as, and they seemed very alien to our concerns.

I probably picked up some of my notions from my older brothers and my father, who used to have long debates and discussions about intellectual and philosophical matters, and no doubt there was some politics in there as well.

I remember going to the library and looking in the card catalog (yeah, it was a while back) for books on communism and books on capitalism, finding none of the former and a whole lot of the latter.  I did a report on it in some class or other after also finding out there was some rich conservative family business who had pretty much a monopoly on textbooks in our schools and they censored so much that our history books were virtually impossible to read, stultifyingly boring.

That annoyed me.  It gave me a glimpse that I was being conditioned in some way and I didn’t like it one bit.  So I think that’s part of the reason I questioned the “conventional wisdom” of my peers and my textbooks and teachers at the time.

I don’t think it’s so easy to condition the kids any more.  They have the internet, but they also have online communities where they build up their kid cultures that may seem completely mindless to the rest of us but I believe they form their own “anti-conditioning” in those groups.

They are more technologically savvy than the grown-ups, so they probably have way better filters when it comes to the monumental crap our culture tries to feed them.

To be sure, there are conventional kids just as there are conventional grown-ups, and if our planet survives they will no doubt submit happily to any conditioning our culture cares to offer, and fear and attack anyone who tries to show them different.  That’s just human nature mixed with a usually bad culture.

But I think there’s a whole lot of kids out there who probably see things we would be interested in hearing about.

Just a thought.

A little lagniappe.  Here’s a kid (courtesy of YouTube’s Mailllo) from Greenpeace reading the grown ups the riot act.  It’s been shown on Daily Kos and some folks loved it, others hated it.  Love it or hate it, the kids are talking, all over the world.

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    • Robyn on August 16, 2008 at 02:20

    …if there was anywhere else to go…and someone wanted to pay my way.

    I got the “love it or leave it” response from some of my classmates, which I met with the utter obnoxious scorn of a typical junior high student.

  1. this takes me back to my junior high school days, when I gave a report on why bombing the Viet Cong was a good idea…’cause it would work and all that.

    Some friends of mine were shocked and steered me in the right direction where I could get the info I needed. After which there was no turning back.

  2. when I heard on the news that China had executed some of the protesters from Tiananmen Square. It also happened to be the anniversary of the murders of Goodman, Chaney and Schwerner in Mississippi in 1964.

    I cried alot that day thinking about how much we needed young people to fuel our revolutions and the price that so many have paid for doing so.  

    • Robyn on August 16, 2008 at 06:08

    …from my childhood is paying a nickel to the projectionist at the town movie theater, who just happened to live across the alley from us, to watch movie trailers, serials and cartoons projected on a sheet his attic.

    I also used to spend Saturday mornings watching two or three B-movies for a quarter at the theater.  I think that’s where I learned a healthy distrust of government.  I especially remember Them, about the evil that atomic bombs bring, and the bigger evil of nationalism as expressed by the use of military force…as if we didn’t learn that from duck-and-cover drills.

  3. The Sanctuary and read an essay by Nezua titled welcome to the machine, mechanic where he quotes Alfonso Cuarón (director of Y tu mamá también):

    “I enjoy doing children’s films and I enjoy working with children, but in every single film I’ve done, the people I care to communicate with are young people,” [Alfonso Cuarón] explains. “I don’t know how good a communicator I am with older people in the sense that I just feel more comfortable trying to communicate with young people. For me, that’s where hope resides.”

    The way he sees it, evolution has moved at lightning speed when it comes to technology and knowledge, but at a snail’s pace when it comes to ethics and politics. His hope is that this will start to change with the generation behind his own. For while he acknowledges that plenty of people of his generation and older are struggling to address issues such as global warming and immigration, he has no faith in the politicians.

    Cuarón points to the tale of two walls as an example, recalling that when the Berlin Wall came down in 1989, the democratic world celebrated. “Because walls don’t work. Now the conversation is, ‘Let’s put a wall between Mexico and the States.’ Everything’s going into very archaic solutions, very archaic ways of seeing things,” he says.

    “I do believe in the younger generation, people that were born in this reality,” he adds. “Part of the problem of the older generation is that everything is a regressive thing, ‘Let’s go back to this paradise.’ That’s not going to happen. The younger generation, they know that this is the world they are living in. They have to transform this world.”

    • Alma on August 16, 2008 at 17:50

    I don’t think it’s so easy to condition the kids any more.  They have the internet, but they also have online communities where they build up their kid cultures that may seem completely mindless to the rest of us but I believe they form their own “anti-conditioning” in those groups.

    They are more technologically savvy than the grown-ups, so they probably have way better filters when it comes to the monumental crap our culture tries to feed them.

    My daughter is really good at picking “conditioning” BS out.  She points out things to me quite often that I’ve never thought about.

    I LOVE Godzilla. The old one, not Hollywoods version of him.  I used to have a 25 pound black cat, that when he was hungry sounded just like Godzilla, really!  I think it was his pitch.  So every time I hear Godzilla, I think of my Boo.  🙂

    • Alma on August 16, 2008 at 18:19

    We have, or used to have, almost all of them on video tape.  My son went through a few years of Godzilla worship, so we had a few movies, and rubber figurines.  At least he never asked me to turn him into Godzilla for Halloween.  😉

    I wish Kate would blog here, but she hasn’t shown any interest in blogging on the sites I go to.  

    One of her customers came in the other day and told her about the Dem chairman being killed.  She called home from work to make sure it wasn’t anyone “we knew”.

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