“a whole nation called Iraq, now it’s wiped out.”

One of my worst sins in the Blogosphere is not reading Greenwald everyday. Today I went over to his place to atone…and found this. What can and cannot be spoken on television

Turkana mentioned the other day that we don’t hear from people inside Iraq. In fact we hear very little from inside Iraq. Which is pretty amazing when you stop to think about it. It’s not like we don’t have the technology…and now that the surge is working (hahahahahahaha-sob) reporters should be able to travel freely and report on conditions there and the mood of the people…and maybe even the people who are sort of miffed that their country has been destroyed for no reason, right?

Here is the clip on his page, please watch and read…and Greenwald has posted more of the transcript here.

    ROSE: And obviously, what we want to accomplish on this fifth anniversary of the American invasion, or the coalition invasion of Iraq, is how they see it as Iraqis, five years later.

   Give me an assessment.

   ALI FADHIL: That’s a big question, assessment. Well, basically, probably, I`ll kind of sum it in a few words.

   It’s — we have a country where the government is not functioning after five years. We have too many internal problems. And we have the violence increasing day after day.

   We have a huge crisis of refugees inside and outside Iraq. We have a total failure of the — of the civilian — the civilian structure and what’s happening inside. We have the sectarian divisions increasing. We didn’t have that before. Now we have it.

   So, basically, my assessment is we have a whole nation called Iraq, now it’s wiped out.

   CHARLIE ROSE: And Iraq is worse off because the United States came?

   ALI FADHIL: It’s worse off because the United States came to Iraq, definitely, and because the United States did all these mistakes in Iraq.


   CHARLIE ROSE: So where do we go from here? Five years after the invasion of Iraq, what is a wise American policy?

   ALI FADHIL: Let me start with telling you what is happening right now, what is the American policy right now in Iraq.

   It’s so shame to say that America is in Iraq right now, and particularly the State Department and also the Pentagon as well, the U.S. Army in Iraq. They’re going back to Saddam’s policies in everything. . . . If you, you know, name it, name the most successful project of the surge — outcome of the surge, the (INAUDIBLE) councils. You know, these insurgents, the Sunnis, even Shiites.

   CHARLIE ROSE: The so-called awakening.

   ALI FADHIL: Awakening council, exactly. They’re giving them money to protect their own neighborhoods. Isn’t that the same what happened under Saddam? . . .

   Anything [Americans] do — probably even in good intentions — is bad for us, everything they do, everything. There’s nothing they’re doing is right.

   And that’s what is going to happen. It’s just prolonging the diaspora of the Iraqis. We’re suffering more and more every day. We need, you know, to start the salvation (ph). . .

   SINAN ANTOON: The president today said something really obscene to my mind. He said Iraq is witnessing the first Arab uprising against al Qaeda.

   We did not have al Qaeda in Iraq before.We had a ruthless dictatorship.


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  2. … is when I read that we “bombed suspected Al Quaeda outposts” … we dropped bombs and we don’t even know what or who we dropped the bombs upon … other than, of course, the many civilians caught in this bombing.

    Our military is systematically killing folks and the lamestream media just keeps calling all of them “terrorists” or “insurgents” (yeah, folks who may  not wish to be killed all the time).

    I guess we’ll start doing that in the US soon, too, as it’s such a great plan.  Whenever someone commits a crime we should just bomb the whole neighborhood.

    It is obscene.

  3. he probably has a whole list of countries we can ruin.

    If he wins we really will be the assholes of the world. We won’t have much competition for the title.

  4. Juan Cole say that the actual numbers of Al Qaeda in Iraq was about 1000. Al Qaeda has come to mean anyone who fights against US domination. It’s a knee jerk fear phrase that they trot out to get people to think they are ‘protecting’ us and the people they want to kill, the Iraqis.  

    • shpilk on March 29, 2008 at 7:18 pm

    Iran. Anything to pursue oil, gas, and shiny objects that make money for rich people.  

    • KrisC on March 29, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    After a conversation Edger and I had the other night about mercury and depleted uranium, I stumbled upon this vid.  It’s graphic and horrible, but it’s what we are doing to this country, and it will continue to destroy this country and its’ people for billions of years.

    Warning:  Graphic!

    • Edger on March 29, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    Via truthout:

    Baghdad – American aircraft struck militia targets in Basra on Friday, the first time that airpower has been called in to aid a faltering ground offensive there against armed groups that operate outside government control.

       The U.S. military reported killing 78 “bad guys” in Baghdad in the past three days; American forces backed by combat helicopters continued Friday to battle members of the Mahdi Army, a militia loyal to Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, in Baghdad, while Iraqi forces took them on in the south.

       Militiamen fired rockets and mortar shells three times Friday at the fortified Green Zone, the location of the U.S. Embassy and Iraqi government offices. Mortar shells hit the offices of Vice President Tariq al-Hashimi, killing two guards and wounding four others, officials reported.

       Green Zone attacks this week have killed two Americans; embassy personnel are sleeping in the thick-walled former palace of Saddam Hussein for protection.

       Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki launched the offensive with his troops in Basra on Monday. He has said the goal is to oust dueling Shiite militias and criminal gangs that controlled the city. But Sadr’s followers call the offensive a politically motivated attempt to dismantle the Mahdi Army and thwart Sadr’s influence in the country ahead of provincial elections this year.

       U.S. officials say Maliki launched the push without consulting them. With the Mahdi Army fighters putting up stiff resistance, American forces have been drawn deeper into the conflict to support their Iraqi allies, in some places taking the lead.

       The U.S. warplanes that struck in Basra fired cannons in two overnight strafing runs, killing three militia fighters, the British military reported. The targets were a militia mortar team and a militia stronghold, said Maj. Tom Holloway, a British military spokesman.

       Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said the Iraqi government has been satisfied with the help it has been given. “At this moment, we feel that Iraqi security forces are doing well,” he said.

       A source in the police command in Basra said he expected British and U.S. ground units to join the fight in coming days.

       Shiite fighters gave similar predictions. “Up to now, neither the Americans or Brits have staged any offensive against us in Basra, but it would happen very soon,” said Abu Sadiq, a Mahdi Army commander who said he leads 30 fighters. “We are still fighting the Iraqi forces, and even if the occupiers start their offensive we are totally ready for them.”

       A senior Iraqi military adviser has said the crackdown is taking longer than expected, partly because militia fighters have superior weapons.

    • on March 29, 2008 at 10:08 pm

  5. was linking this video; I just don’t have the stomach for this kind of stuff…

    • srkp23 on March 30, 2008 at 1:19 am

    Sinan Antoon teaches at NYU, and I was fortunate to have him as one of the speakers for an Iraq War Moratorium event I organized last fall. An extraordinary poet, writer, speaker, teacher.  

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