What are we here for?

First let me apologize for my attitude last night.  I should have walked away when I grew to tired to respond with more civility.  The main reason why I became frustrated however still remains. Are we to be an echo chamber of other blogs simply posting and cross-posting the same things?  This leads to fewer voices and perspectives being shared and makes us less interesting and less important.

Are we going to waste half a month figuring out what to call our first project?  How many soldiers died during that time?  If we can’t organize ourselves what is the hope of organizing a movement?  I’m still trying to be excellent to everyone, I really am.  But how do we justify spending so much time on creating a name when people are dying every day?

At this rate we will get the troops home by the end of the century which is just what Cheney was planning on all along.  Are we going to be Cheney enablers?  Or are we going to pull our shit together and put out a frickin’ doctrine already so that we can begin the good work?

Remember it is only one doctrine that can easily be replaced by a better one should you propose it at some later date, fully developed and ready to go.  Everything on the wiki is subject to change at some time in the future, that is the beauty of it.  It will shape shift as our needs and projects grow.

I don’t want to piss anyone off, I just want us to get off the bench and into the game.  

Tonight I added more info to the Admin section of the Wiki, started developing the “Future” section and added more research resources.  Adding something to the wiki is as easy as clicking edit on the page you’d like to add to, typing your text, then clicking save.  I’d appreciate if someone could please start adding info.   Because right now it feels like I am working on something no one else seems to want.

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  1. Part of it is in the process of becoming an essay, so stay tuned for that.  The other part is collected snippets from comments in all the Manifesto diaries.  Not very organized but I could put it up and then have people edit it.

    I wasn’t really expecting to be upgrading Soapblox this weekend but I agreed to help with the beta. That’s holding things up for me right now.  I’ll start working on wiki stuff soon.  

  2. Work, or in my business design by committee is always frustrating. While not a writer I have given this thought  and I think our target audience should be kept in mind. One of the main appeals of this site for me is the blogging for the future aspects, where instead of being focused solely in the confines of the political here and now it seeks to move into the more universal aspects of politics.

    The spirit of this site is humanistic and philosophical, with a vision of what the future of blogging should be and it role in forming whats to come. Hope I’m not making it harder but I feel the name should be not to politically overt as this narrows the scope. I’ll go now as I am probably pissing you off. Thanks for the work. By the way I chose Progressive voices because I felt that it expressed our advocacy yet kept it universal. My lame suggestions Voices for Progress, or The Wheel of Progress, Progressive Visions. It’s like naming a band. Keep in mind that the project itself will define the name. so I will be happy with whatever comes.  

    • pfiore8 on November 12, 2007 at 00:24

    i don’t see it as a progressive thing. i see it as an american thing. i believe the majority of americans would like to restore the constitution, balance of power, restore our image, stop torture, get out of iraq, and start seriously stoking up the sustainable growth thing and get China and India on board.

    but they aren’t all PROGRESSIVES. i think we should court the NRA, conservatives, and liberterians, among others.

    this is not about a progressive vision. it’s about common fucking sense. and it’s an american vision, all these ways of thinking. it’s what makes us, our literature, music, and movies the gold standards in the world. they have VITALITY.

    i am visiting some friends this weekend and thought about it on my 2-hour drive.

    what will all of these disparate groups understand? something like the Middle Class Restoration Project or Middle Class Revival

    or Constitutional Restoration Project.

    because without a functioning gov’t and some basic agreements on how it functions, nothing else will get done, imo

    but the majority of us want to stop the craziness. we need to promote maintaining different and various points of view and coming to the table and solve problems in the way they did at the Constitutional Convention.

    we need conflict to incite critical thinking. i don’t want us all to be the same. the way to make it work is to get bands of us together and find some way we can solve problems together, all getting a little of what we need. like a diverse gene pool… it’s robust!

    i will expand in when i get home.

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