****!!!!&^##!!!!!!!! (Update 2x, 3x)

I got home from work, I have to go to job #2, and I don’t have time to write anymore.

But goddamn it.

Just look here

Somebody do something with this, please.


2858: Sioux Scalp

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Estimate: US $5,000.00 – US $10,000.00

Lot number: 2858 (View all lots)  

Auction Date: Dec-02-07 09:00:00 PST    

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Item location: Mesa, AZ

The picture wasn’t showing anymore, and on the Anniversary of the Sand Creek Massacre.  


I just got back from my gig, and I had that picture in my head while I was playing and fighting back tears on the way home. Then, I get back and I see what all you have done. I am so full of gratitude for you all right now. I can’t think and I need to go to bed, I’ve been fighting getting ill. I just wanted to say thankyou from my heart.

[Update #2]

eBay and Allard both dropped it.

I had to journal about it before work.. I am so grateful for everybody, I don’t have the words. And the relief of having that barbaric display taken down is just coming over me, but it needs to be returned. That I’m sure of. So, I’ll leave a note for someone over at Native American Netroots to see what needs to be done next.

[Update #3]

From a Mysace bulletin (private citizens info. has been taken out. News organization info. is left intact):

———– Bulletin Message —————–

Knowing the historical aspect that has happen to native people and the misconception of what “Scalping” mean is wrong… Scalping is what the Europeans’ brought to kill Native people — The policy by the U.S. Government was to “Scalp” Native for money as a form of genocide against native people… Yes… GENOCIDE!!!!  To decimate, destroy, demolish a group of people like they have done to other countries…. What is seen on Ebay is racist and wrong!!!!

Please write to Ebay and tell them if they would also sell “noose” because selling Scalps is just the same!!!!

(name removed)

RE: Native scalp for bid again on Ebay

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—————– Bulletin Message —————–
Date: Nov 29, 2007 5:07 PM

I wanna puke and then kick ass.
(name removed)

Sioux Scalp on auction at EBAY

Hello everyone, I have received emails from various folks today about the sca…

Hello everyone,

I have received emails from various folks today about the scalp on auction at EBAY.
So, I wanted to post some info and provide a update about this issue for you all.

Asking EBAY to remove this item, is a good step, however it doesn’t stop
Allard Auctions from selling it elsewhere. They can turn around and sell it
at one of the many auctions available throughout the country, there are
dozens of auction sites and different houses. If they sell it elsewhere,
then this scalp may never be returned to the proper place, back to the
Lakota people.

It is a violation of NAGPRA and federal offense to be in possession of human
remains of any kind.

Title 18, United States Code, Section 1170 – Illegal Trafficking in Native
American Human Remains and Cultural Items: Prohibits the sale of the human
remains or cultural artifacts of Native Americans without the right of
possession of those items in accordance with the Native American Graves
Protection and Repatriation Act.

I have alerted the proper agencies and people at NAGPRA of this item, they
are going to take immediate action and will be proceeding in confiscating
this item, from these )(*&^%$#@!, that have this on auction. The auction
ends on Dec 2nd, so they are going to need to move very quickly on this,
which they stated they will. From what I was told, this Allard Auctions has
already had previous violations for attempting to sell illegal items, such
as this scalp. So, this should be interesting to see what consequences that
they receive for another violation. There could be a substantial fine
involved. Personally I hope that they take away their auction license, ban
them from EBAYall together, throw their sorry butts in the pen and throw
away the key. Somehow stiffer penalties and prison sentencing needs to be
enacted, to stop these grave robbers and collectors,instead of a slap on the
hand. The lack of enforcement and resources in each state is part of the
challenge with this issue. Unless it gets reported by someone, they usually
don’t get caught. I am sure glad that the person who did catch this, sent
out the plea request! This is a never endless battle.

The first step will be, to get this item authenticated, confirm it’s what
they are saying it is. Then, once the scalp is confiscated from Allard,
NAGPRA will go thru the process of getting it repatriated back to the Tribe.
That of course can take some time, but at least it will happen eventually,
instead of it being sold to some other yahoo collector to put on display.

The other option would have been to contact these folks directly and attempt
to get them to donate the item back to the tribe, where it belongs. I
couldn’t see that happening, from the looks of their auction site, they are
greedy people making a buck off of selling various artifacts. If they were
just a private person, this was a one time deal, then maybe we would have
had a chance at the other way. I remember a couple years ago, there was a
full set of remains of a young ndn girl on auction at EBAY. I don’t
understand why EBAY can’t monitor these people somehow…..sheesh…….they
need a serious policy revamping I would think!

I am suppose to follow up with them on Tuesday for a update what has been
done, if I don’t hear from them prior to that.

Here is the direct link for the item on EBAY
And the link to report this to EBAY

Hope it helps………….I will do what I can with this one.

In peace & solidarity,
“Providing news and information about Native American Issues & Causes”
“Helping to make a difference for our people in Indian Country, one day at a time. What will you do today to help make a difference?”

“Our sacred lands are all that remain keeping us connected to our place on Mother Earth, to our spirituality, our heritage and our lands; what’s left of them. If they take it all away, what will remain except a vague memory of a past so forgotten?”


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  1. How barbaric!

    I suggest e-mailing e-bay to try to get it removed. Does anyone familiar with them have an appropriate e-mail address? I’ll go googling

    • nocatz on November 30, 2007 at 12:35 am

    they have a ‘contact’


  2.  …which also allowed me to block my address from the allardauctions folks.  I asked how he/they/she, in good conscience, could sell human remains.  

    I typed in <2858 Sioux Scalp> in search box at ebay, got to a page with an option to e– to the seller.

  3. lasupport@ebay.com

    If you are a member there should be a way for you to report it via their user tools.

    Thanks for helping.

  4. This auction makes me want to vomit. Please remove it. It is barbaric and an affront to my sense of decency.


    this is the link to the live auctions. And indeed the address is: lasupport@ebay.com

    My subject header was: somebody is selling human remains on live auctions.

  5. nobody has bid on it. Sometimes I’m thankful for the little things.

  6. To Whom It May Concern:

    I wanted to call your attention to an item that is being auctioned on eBay. Given the bloody history of the colonization of America, I hardly think this is an appropriate item for auction. Indeed, I would liken this item to Nazi memorabilia, which I hope you would not permit to be auctioned at eBay. I would be very appreciative if this item were removed from auction.

    Thank you for your consideration.

    {name redacted}

  7. and emailed. I’ve not heard back as yet.

    Just unbelievable.  

  8. to email them as well. That was a complete abomination and the sight of it is surely going to give me nightmares tonight.

  9. and e-mailed Steve Allard directly.  My e-mail also requested that he take immediate steps to repatriate the item to the relevant Lakota tribe for proper burial.

    Sorry you had to see this, WR.  Some people are just abominations.

      • Robyn on November 29, 2007 at 11:44 pm

      …but you might want to do a screen capture.

    1. out the door for home and am terrible at internet searching. But if you find the e-bay address – I’d jump at the opportunity to send one and let them know what I think about this. There are times when “civility” is definitely NOT called for. And this is one of them! Don’t they have some kind of policy for screening stuff that is advertised?

    • lezlie on November 30, 2007 at 10:22 am

    with Loren D. who was appalled as well and reported it to the “Trust and Safety team” for removal and disciplinary action and also suggested I report it to their Indian Artifact division which I did.  I am so sorry things like this happen, winter rabbit. It is so wrong on so many levels.  

    • lezlie on November 30, 2007 at 10:30 am

    and suggested he return the horrific item to it’s people for proper burial.

    Hope this helps… I am an ebay member, so I’ll keep on it!

    • Diane G on November 30, 2007 at 2:15 pm

    I linked this essay at both my blog & MLW.

    My heart just bleeds.

    Maybe we should try and do a fundraiser to buy it and return him to his people, for a respectful burial.

    Thanks to everyone who provided linky information.

    Much love,


    • Diane G on November 30, 2007 at 4:20 pm


    But still available from Allard Auctions

    Email your objections to:


    You will get an “out of office” reply but the best way to make someone like this change their mind, is to make them fear repercussion.

  10. Thank you eBay for listening. We realize you cannot possibly monitor all auctions in real time but appreciate your swift response to our concerns.

    Thanks Winter Rabbit for your continued diligence.

  11. …on $$ for people’s bones!

    May we have swift success on regime change…



  12. is it really off Allard Auctions? Is that what it means? I know it’s off eBay.

    This is what it says:

    Error Occurred While Processing Request

    That means they took it off, right?

    I can’t think very clearly right now.

    • Tigana on December 1, 2007 at 10:26 am

    Skull and Bones at Yale has them. No, I am not kidding.  

  13. … these people should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    Are they that evil, insane, or stupid?

    I mean, would anyone dare to sell one of the lampshades that the Nazis made from Jewish skins? Or an African slave?

    Damn them all.  

    • navajo on December 2, 2007 at 6:12 am

    I have been so upset by something I read.

    Thanks to all the doers out there!


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