Like the Welshman before him, Major Danby does not get it. In rationalizing the handling of the Mukasey vote, Danby argues:
You can argue that Reid should have still allowed a cloture vote so that we could see which of the 40 Senators who opposed Mukasey were unwilling to filibuster him. That would make sense if Reid were a journalist or a netroots activist. But he’s a Majority Leader, and he serves his caucus, and sometimes that means letting them get away without having a vote that spotlights the hypocrisy nuance of their position.
Suppose you really believe that, is Major Danby Harry Reid? Are any of us? What in the fuck does Danby think the role of the Netroots is? Obviously, he sees HIS role as EXPLAINING to us poor simpletons how “Washington works.” There is a lot of that going around at Daily Kos these days.
No, Major Danby, we are NOT Harry Reid. We are the Left flank of the Democratic Party. And when the Left flank of the Party dedicates itself to rationalizing capitulation (whatever its merits in a specific instance for the people doing the capitulating) then you become nothing but an enabling arm of the Beltway Dems.
This is not new with Danby, but never has he stated it so starkly. Pathetic.
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susang linked to your talk left post, from this morning- not to the one here.
call it a hunch- danby won’t get the traction welshman got…
…Understandable that they would try to rationalize, since there are no real rational explanations.
They want to tell us why we should not oppose an opposition party that is not opposing.
If we just support these folks and not criticize them, then….um…then….um…
Hosted a small show over the summer on Current TV. I only caught the tail end of it but he ended by looking at the camera and saying:
“Don’t like rich people, they don’t like you.” Then he bent over and smacked his own ass and said: “There I didn’t make an ass of meself.”
By steering public opinion into favorable ones of their Washington cronies, certain bloggers hope to ingratiate themselves in order to be included in their exclusive club.
And why do it? They will never be included in the “in crowd” they will only be used until they are of no use to anyone just like the rabid punditry of the right.
Don’t like them, they don’t like you.
blinded by process and partisan politics, which become the only reality they are capable of dealing with. They have adopted the very thing they oppose. Movements by their very nature move. Political reality is not static unless you freeze it and concede to defeat, your strategy becomes theirs. Maybe it’s like the Stockholm Syndrome thing where they identify with their captors.
Even Nancy seems to have a better grasp of what advocacy is. I got yelled at for ‘cutting my nose of to spite myself’ for taking the no votes to task. For realists they sure aren’t very practical about being effective and what their role is, and it’s not rolling over and over….
accomodating, appeasing… anything but tolerance of criticism, which is tantamount to blasphemy for the hardcore Party People, the PP’s.
The PP’s on DK, or anywhere for that matter, are not representative of the left wing flank of anything. It represents conformist, status quo thinking and it has gotten us to where we are now with regard to the Supremes, the lack of tangible opposition to the war, and the continued demise of the Constitution.
That’s exactly what I thought when I read the lines you quoted. I know Danby is working for a candidate but boy, he sure has swallowed the kool-aid when it comes to thinking he’s part of the big boys’ club now. He sounded like Pelosi-in-training.
Not that it isn’t an interesting point, Armando, but again, is this site simply a DK wannabe? It is not leading the way into the future if so; it’s simply hanging onto the coattails of another ho-hum, albeit massive, blog.
Why keep bringing DailyKos business here? Why not take the lead and create your own stance and advance it?
This is the same type of problem I perceive between the effectiveness of Repubs setting the message, poisonous as it is, and the Dems always obediently responding to it, instead of creating and advancing their own.
It’s time to cut loose the apron strings, or some such thing.
as far as i can tell, there is no left flank, much less a Democratic Party.
It’s Political Party Major and Political Party Minor. And the only difference I can discern is that the Minor Party is more willing to invest a teeny tiny amount of our taxes into programs that may actually benefit us (but really just to pacify us)
this is all ridiculous.
you want to make some waves? how about all the lefty blogs start shouting in unison support of Kucinich. I can’t think of a more out-of-the beltway figure to scare the bejesus out ALL the politicians
we have power in the netroots? then let’s rock this fucking boat
otherwise, we are the one capitulating armando. it’s time for us to make a stand.
but NPK said most of what I would have said anyway.
Shall we suit up as the tortured – and march everywhere across America?
The power that W has grabbed, only for themselves. Period.
When people say that there’s not a dime’s worth of difference between the parties, I think it’s on this issue that they’re thinking. We don’t have a majority in either House of the Congress. We have maybe 25 Senators and maybe 140 House members (and that may be overstating it). The leadership of the party is corrupted by power (and by the money they have flowing in). It’s up to us to convince the rest of America that this is not what the Democratic Party is about. It’s one of the reasons I support Dennis for President.
Go Dennis ‘No Strings Attached’ Kucinich!
http://dennis4presid…
Choose Peace.
We only have 2 parties. And the other party is very, very, very, very, DANGEROUS.
but this is a war also, just a bulletless war so far. We ARE the left flank of the Democratic party and if we want to continue to resolve our differences at the ballot box with combating minds and ideas instead of combat involving limbs and lives then we have to accept that there is a fight to fight and an opposition to fight…..not a fight to rationalize that which can’t be rationalized. I finally understand that it is the Netroots job at this time to demand and fight for a shift left in our nations politics and policies because we are losing dearly everyday to our current right leaning course that all of our legislators are riding.