Is The Base Fleeing?

Nancy has given up on us….and on ending the Iraq Occupation

Really everyone of the Dems besides The Progressive Caucus and The Out Of Iraq Caucus and a few others who are REALLY working to stop the war (and who deserve more praise than we tend to give them)…..have given up on The Base.

The General Populace….or as we like to call them…..Voters, want the War over, and they want it over bad. We….being the base…..want it over even worse. Pelosi is right when she says that Iraq overrides everything else. But we can also add in Torture, Fisa, NOT enforcing subpoenas…..and at this point, NO high profile efforts to hold Bushco accountable. If the Dem Leadership was competent, there would be a new story on the endless permutations of the illegality of Bushco leading the news every night.

From the desperate interest in Ron Paul, to talk of another third party, to MANY folks on blogs saying they just won’t vote (and think on how THAT translates into the Gen Pop!) ……my question, in sooth, the way I am choosing to “facilitate communication” with our Congressional Democrats today to get them to WAKE THE FUCK UP, is by asking…..Is The Base Fleeing?

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    • oculus on October 12, 2007 at 7:14 pm


  2. Keep Running!

  3. because we have nowhere else to go, and we know it. And they know we know it. The real question is: how can the base walk the pavement and sell Democrats to swing voters in November 2008 when we have almost nothing to show for 2006 on all the issues you name?

    • Pluto on October 12, 2007 at 7:26 pm

    …. a Destination.

    That’s the tragedy. Ready to roll and nowhere to go

  4. the base.  I am gone.  The 2006 election seems like one big ‘bait and switch’, job.

  5. Here’s a localized example. I had a client recently who saw the “M” “peach” “bush” magnetic bumper sticker that is displayed on my metal solvents cabinet and we started talking politics. She said she’d been one of the main staff for Grijalva, who is one of the most progressive Dems in Congress. She said that most of the people who had worked with her had unregistered as Dems in disgust with Pelosi and Reid. She said they were either dropping out or moving towards third parties.

    Tomorrow I’m going to attend the State Democratic Progressive Caucus meeting to see what they have to say, to take stock of how local and state progressives are doing here.
    I’m curious if they are making any headway or if they, like a lot of bloggers, are splitting and turning away from the big D party.

    • robodd on October 12, 2007 at 7:48 pm

    is fleeing the base.  Fled, actually.

  6. is ) and read the comments that most of the Ron Paul people are posting, they’re not wacko-idiots like you get at RedState or LGF…they’re serious, articulate people. 

    I fear ‘desperate interest in Ron Paul’ may be an understatement.

    • pfiore8 on October 12, 2007 at 8:23 pm

    Dennis Kucinich at this point

  7. I think many of the Corporate Republicans (no taxes) are leaving the Bush Republican Party and shifting over the Corporate Clinton Democrats.

    So while the Progressives and traditional social justice Democrats are growing dissatisfied, the Corporate, moneyed interest base of the Democratic Party is growing. Therefore, I think the base isn’t fleeing, but rather being displaced by Republicans shifting.

    Both party’s base voters are dissatisfied with their leadership, but unlike the base Republicans — many in the Democratic Party are happy with the presidential candidates or, at least, hopeful Gore will step in.

    So, I think the Democratic “base” is broad, but its progressive base is weakening.

    A sure-to-be-mocked U.S. Political Spectrum

    Left <-----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------> Right

    Progressives — Democrats — Corp Dems – Corp Repubs — Bush Repubs — Dominionists

  8. with this:

    Quick Vote

    Are Al Gore and the climate-change panel deserving winners of the Nobel Peace Prize?

    Yes 58% 69664 
    No 42% 50777 

    Total Votes: 120441 

    read related article

    and this: readers sound off on Gore, Nobel Peace Prize

    American stupidity at work!

  9. That’s the question I’m sure many pols are asking.

    But they are very lucky. Our political opponents drive more and more moderates to the Democratic party every day.

    Sadly, at least for the next election or two, the Dems may not need us DFH’s hanging around.

    The real question will be – when the R’s get back on their feet, will the D’s be able to get their base back?

    They are playing a game of short term strategery that could very well have disasterous long term political results.

    If so, it couldn’t happen to a nicer party.


    • sharon on October 12, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    Before he could ask me for a penny I told him that the only candidate I could consider voting for is Al Gore.  The current spineless craven Dems we have elected don’t deserve a penny nor a vote and won’t be seeing either from me.  I think he was a little surprised. Just a quiet, thank you, ma’am.  I didn’t rant and rave, just said succinctly what they refuse to understand.

    Great poll, buhdy, very curious to see what evolves with it at dkos.

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