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Comparison and Contrast: Privacy and Violation of Human Rights

by: GreyHawk

Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 05:47:23 PST
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Full piece posted on ePluribus Media 2.0.
As is often the case in hotly contested discussion, claims of invalid comparisons are often made alongside calls to compare "apples to apples" instead of "apples to ice buckets" or some other such mis-matched scale.
In order to help further along the discussion of why rendition, torture and individual rights to privacy, decency and proper representation in a court of law matters no matter the reason, I present two current stories after the fold that both concern the abuse of a man and a tortured penis.
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GreyHawk :: Comparison and Contrast: Privacy and Violation of Human Rights

Here are the two stories:
Tattooed privates prove not so private:
PHOENIX - A surgeon faces a disciplinary hearing for snapping a photo of a patient's tattooed genitals during an operation and showing it around to other doctors.
[...snip...]
"Patient privacy is a serious matter, and photographing someone in this manner without a good reason is something we will investigate down to the last detail," said Dr. Joseph Sirven...

The patient/victim stated "The longer I sit here the angrier I get."
Now compare it to this article, Lawyer: CIA Has Photos of Outsourced Torture of Gitmo Suspect:
A lawyer for a Guantanamo Bay terrorism suspect allegedly tortured in Morocco when his interrogation was outsourced by the U.S. says the CIA was present and has photographs of the physical abuse of his client.
Binyam Mohamed, a 27-year-old Ethiopian was sliced in the chest and penis by interrogators during the 18 months he was held in Morocco in 2002 and 2003, according to his lawyer, Clive Stafford Smith of Reprieve, a British human rights group.

So...don't ~both~ men deserve to have their days in court? Do the crimes and offenses committed against one man compare in any way to those committed against the other, or can you justify either circumstance and let the perpetrators off scott-free?
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There's a little more to this piece over on ePluribus Media, so please go read the whole thing over there. I thought the comparison and contrast cases alone were plenty -- perhaps too much? -- for folks to get a good ~~taste of~~ ~~feel for~~ ~~flavor of~~ sense of the interesting subtleties and subtexts of hypocrisy and arrogance at the expense of basic humanity in our world today. My apologies if this unsettled anyone's tummy before breakfast.
Happy Holidays to all.
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Note: This same piece is also posted over on DailyKos; the full piece alone resides on ePluribus Media. The sole difference between this version and the one on dKos is the inclusion over there of a particularly appropriate example of holiday gift-giving using a wide stance...
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Comparison and Contrast: Privacy and Violation of Human Rights | 11 comments

Thoughts or comments...? (4.00 / 2)

by: GreyHawk @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 07:49:22 AM CST

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Well... (4.00 / 3)

I probably wouldn't get a tattoo on my genitals which means I have the soul of a suburbanite. However, surgeons tend to be assholes so that doesn't surprise me, and the guy deserves discipline and the patient some retribution.

The other gentleman deserves a gabillion dollars in compensation which he won't get and an apology which he won't get.

by: undercovercalico @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 08:24:22 AM CST

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I agree on both counts. What I'm most curious (4.00 / 2)

about is -- faced with the comparison and contrast -- what kinds of prevarication and justifications would Reich-wingers come up with that they could actually make with a straight face.

by: GreyHawk @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 09:05:52 AM CST

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I wouldn't get a tatoo on my genitals.... (4.00 / 2)

because it would HURT!

As for the rest of the story...Americans value their rights above all else...when wronged. They seem....well some of them... very reluctant to extend rights to others for some reason.

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!

by: buhdydharma @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 09:45:37 AM CST

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And therein lay The Great Hypocrisy, for (4.00 / 2)

isn't our most sacred national text the decree with which we once before announced our rejection of a tyranny led by a man named George?

I do believe the document was called, clearly enough, the Declaration of Independence, and it spoke clearly to the cause of all humanity:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
[...snip...]
...whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
[...snip...]
...when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
[...snip...]
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
[...snip...]
We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations...

Or something like that.

by: GreyHawk @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 10:43:20 AM CST

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ALL 'men' (4.00 / 1)

not only those who just happened to have been born in the US

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!

by: buhdydharma @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 10:51:58 AM CST

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Men, not Natives, not slaves... (4.00 / 2)

by: Tigana @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 11:24:59 AM CST

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And not women. (4.00 / 2)

by: Tigana @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 11:25:19 AM CST

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yup, thus the 'apostrophes' (4.00 / 1)

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!

by: buhdydharma @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 12:06:00 PM CST

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Perzactly. (0.00 / 0)

"All" men, where "men" was the standard default for "humanity" in an era where they didn't quite have all those pesky idiosyncrasies worked out.

BTW -- check it out.

by: GreyHawk @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 16:50:40 PM CST

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Ya but it has propaganda value (4.00 / 1)

Keeping subjects like this continuously "in the news" has the added benefit of lowering world and American opinions of America.
Just look back at the most recent years and recall the many things in the news, promoted by "news" over and over again. Most/all have a theme destructive to the image of America or American traditions.
The priest pedophile scandals, Janet Jackson's breast, torture, spying,tazers,Katrina, immigration.
Passion about these issues filters down to two "sides" who argue and fight about it, never resolving anything.
Some asshole at Carslyle actually bought the Magna Carter. If we even valued such a thing as a species we would not have allowed this.
And what will he do with it? Most likely sacrifice it to the giant Owl satute at Bohemian Grove next summer.

"Last Summer Before Armageddon!"

by: Lasthorseman @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 20:33:10 PM CST

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