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Obama's Duty To Prosecute Bush For War Crimes

by: Patriot Daily

Mon Dec 29, 2008 at 14:14:19 PST        
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Obama promised that he would investigate and prosecute Bush team for "genuine crimes"  because no one is above the law, but he would not prosecute "really dumb policies." Obama plans to have his AG review the available information to determine if investigations are needed.   Well, AG nominee Eric Holder knows that many crimes have been committed:

Our government authorized the use of torture, approved of secret electronic surveillance against American citizens, secretly detained American citizens without due process of law, denied the writ of habeas corpus to hundreds of accused enemy combatants and authorized the use of procedures that violate both international law and the United States Constitution.... We owe the American people a reckoning.
Patriot Daily :: Obama's Duty To Prosecute Bush For War Crimes
Indeed, the rule of law is the "strongbox that keeps all our other values safe." We can write laws that say we have certain freedoms and rights, and we can build courts and elect lawmakers, but if there is no rule of law, then we lose our rights bit by bit until they are no longer recognizable.  This is one reason why budhydharma and Docudharma have drafted a petition asking Holder to appoint a Special Prosecutor to investigate and prosecute any government official who has participated in War Crimes.

While the goppies will cry "partisan witch hunt," even the Bush State Dept. recognizes that no democratic society can tolerate abuses when people are tortured or kidnapped under rendition in violation of our rule of law or tolerate the failure to prosecute in compliance with our Constitution.

Signing the petition is not in defiance of our President-Elect Obama, but rather a sign of support for the difficult times that he and Holder will face when performing their clear constitutional duties.

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As President, Obama will have the constitutional duty to faithfully execute our laws.  

The constitutional oath of office requires that our President faithfully execute the office of President and preserve, protect and defend our Constitution. Our constitution also requires that our presidents "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed."  The principle of the rule of law is partially based on this Faithfully Execute clause which requires our President to comply with laws, our Constitution and treaties because our Constitution established a government of laws, not of men and women.

The Geneva Convention is one of the laws which must be faithfully executed.

Our constitution mandates that treaties are one of the laws that the President must faithfully execute.  Moreover, treaties are recognized as one of our supreme laws of the land alongside our Constitution and federal laws.  For over 200 years, the federal courts have reaffirmed that our President is bound by the laws of war, which include conventions. In fact, both Hamdi v. Rumsfeld (2004) and Hamdan v. Rumsfeld (2006) addressed the issue of whether the US government was violating the terms of the 1949 Geneva Convention.  Yet, some will whine that it is partisan to not exempt Bush from 200 years of precedent that governed presidents from both parties.

The Geneva Convention imposes a duty to prosecute former presidents who committed war crimes.

The Geneva Convention mandates that the US "search" for persons "alleged" to have committed or ordered the commission of "torture or inhuman treatment" and then prosecute in our courts or extradite to another country for prosecution. The "grave breaches" protected by the Convention also include the rendition or  "unlawful transfer of a non-prisoner of war from occupied territory."

Rounding up the suspects is easy.

There is an overloaded plate of issues awaiting the leadership of President Obama. Fortunately, neither AG Holder nor an independent commission will have to spend a lot of time searching for alleged perps of war crimes.  This diary has pictures of some of the "persons of interest," as Bush likes to say, who either have admitted their complicity in war crimes or may be percipient witnesses with useful information.

Bush and Cheney have already essentially publicly admitted their roles in authorizing and ordering torture. In Spring 2008, Bush admitted in an ABC interview that he approved "enhanced interrogation" techniques, including waterboarding:

"As a matter of fact," Bush added, "I told the country we did that. And I told them it was legal. We had legal opinions that enabled us to do it." The president added, "I didn't have any problems at all trying to find out what Khalid Sheik Mohammed knew."

In 2006, Cheney stated that dunking terrorism suspects in water was a "no-brainer" method of interrogation.  After a public outcry, Cheney denied that dunking was equivalent to waterboarding, but merely referenced a literal "dunk in the water." Either way, Cheney is screwed because both waterboarding and water dunking is illegal under US and international law.  

In 2008, Cheney went even further by essentially admitting that he personally authorized the use of waterboarding and thus a war crime.  As constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley states, Bush and Cheney are banking that the public will not have the stomach to prosecute them.

We also know that high-level officials participated in approving interrogation methods at National Security Principals Committee meetings in the WH over the span of at least 2 years in which the CIA wanted approvals before conducting interrogation in individual cases.   Thus, we can add Rice, Rumsfeld, Powell, Tenet and Ashcroft to the list of "persons of interest."

Tenet and Bush have both stated that waterboarding was legal based on a memorandum, known as the "Golden Shield," because it was designed to shield CIA officers from liability.   The Golden Shield memo was written by John Yoo and approved by then-chief of the Office of Legal Counsel, Jay Bybee.   In 2004, the Golden Shield legal memo which authorized the interrogation program was withdrawn by Jack Goldsmith, who called the memo "slapdash" and "deeply flawed."

More "persons of interest" can be found if Obama's team reads the Senate Armed Services Committee report which concluded that high-level officials approved torture as an interrogation method.

Holder could also have a chat with Air Force Col. Morris Davis, a former prosecutor, who testified on behalf of a prisoner at Guantánamo that Brig. Gen. Thomas W. Hartmann "insisted that prosecutors proceed with evidence they had obtained through waterboarding and other methods of torture."

The other benefit of war crimes prosecutions is that the Geneva Convention seems pretty clear that Bush can not whip out an executive order or pardon to immunize himself or his cronies from liability.  Article 51 of the Convention states that "[n]o High Contracting Party shall be allowed to absolve itself or any other High Contracting Party of any liability incurred by itself or by another High Contracting Party in respect of breaches referred to in the preceding Article," which is a reference to Article 50 that defines grave breaches.  

There may be some in DC who wish to avoid any investigations for fear of putative complicity, but this simply illustrates the bipartisan nature of any investigation. It's not just the goppies:  For whatever reason, Senator Leahy declared that the Bush team would not face prosecution for war crimes in the US.   And, any investigation could reach some in the new Obama administration, like Robert Gates, for his role in Guantánamo and Iraqi prisons, "which the Washington Post described in a headline as 'a Prison Full of Innocent Men,' without even a procedure for determining their guilt or innocence--unquestionably a violation of the Geneva Conventions in and of itself."  

If nothing else, our votes should have sent the message loud and clear to DC that Americans repudiate the past 8 lawless years and want a return to the rule of law.  For some, the way to return to the rule of law is to move forward without investigating crimes committed by Bushie and his sycophants who viewed the rule of law as malleable chunk of clay. However, political expediency as a reason to avoid prosecutions is also a violation of the rule of law that is based upon blind, nonpartisan justice.

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Thanks to Edger, if you wish to repost this essay you can download a .txt file of the html here (right click and save). Permission granted.

Cross posted at Docudharma.

 

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will post at GOS later today (4.00 / 11)
any other persons of interest? lol, there is a long list, but maybe we can help holder. :)

oh, shit, i did not mean to post to FP (4.00 / 8)
can admin move to diaries. i don't want to screw up the line up. sorry.  

NO! (4.00 / 9)
It is perfect timing, please leave it here!

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!


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Good decision, buhdy... (4.00 / 6)


The fierce urgency of now.  Martin

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A perfect 'roundup' of all the issues. (4.00 / 8)
With your usual eye fro detail and ability to make the cogent points. Thanks PD!

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!


my fav is the no pardon bit (4.00 / 6)
thanks for your kind words. maybe adding gates to lineup will demonstrate war crimes prosecution is not partisan. :)
)

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What a great essay, PD. (4.00 / 6)
Would you like a .txt file of downloadable html so people can spread this around by reposting it? like the link at the top of Nightprowlkitty's essay here?

oh, edger, you are so funny! (4.00 / 4)
i have absolutely no techie skills. but, wow, i luv that you think i do. :)

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Well if you want it I will make it. (4.00 / 3)
Then people can download it, copy and paste it on another site, press save or publish or whatever, and it's posted. With a link back to this essay. Makes it really easy for people to do, and every time someone reposts it the same link is there for other people to repost it.

Up to you. ;-)


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that would be very nice of you (4.00 / 2)
i need to leave for a little bit and then wanted to shorten the diary just a tad before posting at DK, and then planned to post when i get back, maybe 6-9 pst. how much time do you need to do that?  

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I need about ten minutes. (4.00 / 3)
It's already done.

Just edit the essay and add this line to the top.

If you wish to repost this essay you can download a .txt file of the html here (right click and save). Permission granted.

That link should be to http://vradul.googlepages.com/ObamasDutyToProsecuteBushForWarCrime.txt

After you shorten it, leave a note here, and I'll edit the download, too.

Life is short. ;-)


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thanks. how do i get my edited version to you (4.00 / 2)
post in comment here? i will be back in few hours. this is very kind of you.  

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After you edit I can extract it. (4.00 / 2)
You don't need to do anything except let me know you changed it, and I'll edit the download so the link will stay the same that you put at the top, but people will get the edited version.

Don't worry, just edit and I'll take care of it. :-)


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But edit this essay and add that line to the top now. (4.00 / 2)


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edger, i edited diary here, and will post at DK around 7 pm pst (4.00 / 2)
i had to add the language at end because character count limits in the intro at DK. thanks.  

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me too. and sinking fast. people just don't care (4.00 / 2)
if we don't prosecute. so depressing.  

[ Parent ]
I also updated the html download with your new changes. (4.00 / 2)


[ Parent ]
thanks! hey, why not seeing you at DK? :) (4.00 / 2)
npk and several of us are having "interesting" chat with some max guy.

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Sorry I didn't make it over there, PD (4.00 / 1)
I had a few other things I had to go take care of that took longer than I expected, then I went to sleep for awhile.

Top of the rec list there! Way to go!!:-)


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Google search Results 1 - 10 (4.00 / 1)
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check this out edger (4.00 / 2)
http://www.dailykos.com/commen...

so, how did it spread so fast? you only posted at couple sites, right? this is amazing!


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Heh! I saw that site! (4.00 / 2)
Hilarious. She's got her head buried in the sand so deep she even moderates comments on her site in case someone says something she can't handle, and doesn't want anyone else to read, and only posted the title of your essay... no link or even a quote from it, in case someone might actually read it. Heaven forbid! They might learn something! Aaahhhhhhh! Evil liberals!

;-)


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I love the tags she put on her post! (4.00 / 1)
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She forgot "glassy eyed hippie-commies!"


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Interesting article in Newsweek (4.00 / 5)
titled The Noose Tightens.

In early December, in a highly unusual move, a federal court in New York agreed to rehear a lawsuit against former Attorney General John Ashcroft brought by a Canadian citizen, Maher Arar. (Arar was a victim of the administration's extraordinary rendition program: he was seized by U.S. officials in 2002 while in transit through Kennedy Airport and deported to Syria, where he was tortured.) Then, on Dec. 15, the Supreme Court revived a lawsuit against Donald Rumsfeld by four Guantánamo detainees alleging abuse there-a reminder that the court, unlike the White House, will extend Constitutional protections to foreigners at Gitmo.


Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi

Isn't it amazing (4.00 / 4)
how a change in the political reality leads to a change of the legal realities?

Once the tyrant is deposed.

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!


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the goppies are so damn predictable, sometimes it's just too (4.00 / 4)
easy to knock them down. cripes, all we heard at the impeachment hearings from them was we have a constitutional duty to uphold the rule of law -- for a blowjob --- but wow, torture, war crimes, etc. ha, no such thing as rule of law!

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Yes!!!!!!!!! (4.00 / 5)
And I was just sitting here trying to imagine Ashcroft falling on his sword for Bush/Cheney after the way they treated him over the NSA program.

Could get VERY interesting very soon.

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


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