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House Democrats Plan to Fund Iraq Occupation Into 2009

by: Magnifico

Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 21:21:19 PDT        
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(10 am - promoted by ek hornbeck)

I suppose this isn't a shock to anyone, but once again the House Democrats are ignoring their Constitutional power of the purse and are working on funding the Iraq occupation well into 2009. Led by Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the House Democrats work on huge Iraq money bill according to a story in the San Francisco Chronicle.

House Democratic leaders are putting together the largest Iraq war spending bill yet, a measure that is expected to fund the war through the end of the Bush presidency and for nearly six months into the next president's term.

Neither the Bush administration nor Congress has been forthright with Americans about the true costs of the Iraq invasion and occupation. Now, once again the House Democrats are betraying the voters who put them into power in 2006 as they maneuver to fund the Iraq occupation once again to a tune of $108 billion, plus $70 billion of "breathing room" funding for the next president.

Magnifico :: House Democrats Plan to Fund Iraq Occupation Into 2009
The House Democrats know they've selling us out once again.

"It's going to be a tough sell to convince people in my district that funding the war for six months into the new president's term is the way to end the war," said Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Petaluma, a leader of the Out of Iraq Caucus who plans to oppose the funding. "It sounds like we are paying for something we don't want."

Not anymore. After 16 months of this, the House Democrats have convinced me that they actually want the war. Sure, I used to believe that the House Democrats would hold a strong budgetary line against funding the Iraq occupation and refocus our nation's military's mission on fighting al Qaeda in Afghanistan and the tribal border region with Pakistan, but not anymore. Now, according to the Chronicle getting funding for Iraq occupation is "shaping up as a key test for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi." Pelosi is planning to capitulate once again to Mr. Bush, but try to get him to blink on her domestic agenda.

Pelosi is plotting a "guns-for-butter" strategy to try to force Mr. Bush to accept some new domestic spending in exchange for the money he needs to fight the war. The speaker is floating a proposal to extend unemployment benefits for 13 weeks for those whose benefits have run out. The package also could include a new GI Bill benefit to help veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan pay for college.

Of course, the United States will be forced to borrow more money to pay for the occupation. Instead of forcing Mr. Bush to raise taxes to pay for his wars, Pelosi is willing to lead the country further into debt and weakening. A good way to provide for unemployment benefits and improved GI benefits would be to divert the money we're wasting on the occupation of Iraq, redeploy the troops, and then funnel that money into funding the Democrat's domestic agenda. Instead, she's going to pull another "minimum wage hike" tactic while giving Mr. Bush what he wants for the Iraq occupation. Mr. Bush won't even pay for the war fully through this spending bill. He has promised to veto any spending that goes over his demand for $108 billion dollars.

Some of the House Democrats do not agree with Pelosi's "gun-for-butter" tactic. Along with Rep. Woolsey, Democratic Reps. Maxine Waters and Barbara Lee have asked the speaker to "keep the votes on war spending and domestic spending separate." But, no word from the Speaker if she'll keep the spending measures apart.

Pelosi's line is to keep blaming Mr. Bush for not ending the war, when, in fact, she has the Constitutional power to cut the occupation's funding. Pelosi insists:

"It didn't happen because we had hoped that the president would listen to the will of the people and at least be willing to compromise on ... how the war is conducted and some timetable for redeployment of our troops."

The conservative Democrats in the House are afraid of looking weak if they cut the funding. But, by not standing up to Mr. Bush, the Democrats are proving themselves weaker than a lame duck president who is over 70% disapproval in public opinion polls. How many more American soldiers need to die in Iraq to make the Democrats seem strong?  

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Phantom Poll (4.00 / 13)
I guess I accidentally put the tags in the poll position too. Oh well... cross-posted at the Daily Obama.

Not to worry. (4.00 / 9)
General Petraeus will be in charge. (Not to be confused with General Paulus. To date.)


"The only thing worth globalizing is dissent." --Arundhati Roy

Embedded Congress (4.00 / 9)
Yeah, the Senate will surely confirm him. As the Los Angeles Times noted Petraeus promotion ensures future for Bush war policy. They're all in it together.


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"Embedded Congress" (4.00 / 4)
I like that. We'll have to start using that one.

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We are soooo (4.00 / 7)
screwed!!

Always forgive your enemies.  Nothing annoys them so much. ~Oscar Wilde

Well that news cheered me right up! (4.00 / 9)


When you've killed a million Iraqis (4.00 / 6)
(or is it Indonesians, Salvadorans, Vietnamese? Sorry, hard to keep them straight -- we've killed so many), what's a few more?

Why so squeamish? If you can kill one person, you can kill ten. If you can kill ten, you can kill a hundred. It's really quite easy once you get the hang of it. Here, take the gun; you try it. C'mon, it's fun!

Besides, the main thing is to keep the Democrats in office, right?

I mean, they'll vote against war funding once they have a majority. (What? They have a majority?)

Well, they'd vote against something as dangerous as the PATRIOT Act, right? (They voted for it? Oh. Twice? Damn.)

But they fought for health care for all Americans! (They didn't? I though for sure . . .)

They stopped military tribunals from holding trials. (They voted for the Military Commissions Act?)

That Nancy Pelosi, she's so spunky! She's the first woman Speaker, you know. And that Harry Reid, he's a fighter! They got us a living wage! (No?)

Well, that's enough talk! Eyes front, soldier!

Let's see what's on TV. Is American Idol on tonight? What's on the news? I see Nader is running again. Damn him! No wonder the Democrats can't get a break!

That's the problem! It's that damned Nader fellow!

I remember the good old days, before this subversive third-party nonsense. The Clintons. Now there was a president we could be proud of. What? Sanctions? Killed a million civilians? Get away from me kid, ya bother me.

Christ, reality bites.


Wish I was surprised, but... (4.00 / 7)
...Congress not withdrawing military funds in an election year was pretty predictable.  If an election is coming up, you can bet they will retract their spines like turtles pulling their heads inside their shells.

BTW, I voted in your poll to see what would happen (nothing happened).  It seemed apropos of Congress' behavior somehow.  


Just fuck it all. (4.00 / 4)
But Dems are so much better than Rs! (puke)

Seul l’incrédule a droit au miracle. - Elias Canetti

Oh lord: (4.00 / 5)
How many more American soldiers need to die in Iraq to make the Democrats seem strong?  

How horrible to have to ask that question.


Pelosi Is the Biggest Embarrassment (4.00 / 3)
to the Democratic Party since Joe Lieberman.

Americans are Fasicsts (4.00 / 2)
Long AGO before the November 2006 elections I predicted the newly elected Democrats would vote for more war.

http://bushplanet.blogspot.com...

You have to realize something. All the candidates are WAR MONGERS...they want more WAR....AMERICA IS A FASCIST NATION. It EXPORTS fascism and is currently selectively introducing Fascism domestically.

These candidates...McCain, Obama and Clinton...promote fascism. Your representatives are ALL WHORES...who are owned by moneyed interests....

Your "liberal" websites are really very conservative...your bloggers are conservatives who imagine they are liberal.

Move On has not directly demanded in a consistent way immediate withdrawal from IRaq...they are actually a rather conservative organization...

Air America's Randi Rhodes and Al Franken have said...we should not pull out of Iraq until the Job is done.

Juan Cole was not against the Invasion of Iraq.

The only news program that presents the news in any kind of accurate way is Democracy Now! and it's not well known.

Many of you guys are conservative who imagine they are liveral.

Americans are by and large Pro Fascist

Stu Piddy...a free range human


I have NEVER ... (4.00 / 3)
... imagined myself liveral!

Whatever liveral may be.


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Liveral....A person who can spell but can't think (0.00 / 0)
Typical amongst conservative is to ignore content and focus on spelling and grammar.

Most conservative tried to be good little boys and girls in school....always attempting to please anyone in  authority....that's why Daily Kos has had some "success" in terms of recognition...innaccurate recognition...Most of the people there are good little boys and girls seeking approval.

Authorities in this nation will lead you to the edge of the cliff. Authority is never to be trusted...only considered.

Most authorities don't know their own subject matter.

Look at the news....

Stu Piddy...a free range human


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Oh come on ... (4.00 / 2)
... I was just trying to get a laugh out of you.

Sorry to have failed.


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Laugh all you want.. (4.00 / 1)
I am incapable of laughing. I have never experienced this thing you call "laughter"...

My nucleophile is damaged.  Gene R43295860 is missing all it's Guanine......resulting in an inability to experience this thing you people call "laughter".

I suppose you think that's funny....well.... I DON'T!

Stu Piddy...a free range human


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lol ... (0.00 / 0)
... thanks.

You are a strange person.  But then, so am I.  Just not in the same way.


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THEM (0.00 / 0)
I'm not one of  "them"

Stu Piddy...a free range human

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Bush is more honest than Pelosi. (4.00 / 1)
He doesn't even attempt to hide his psychotic desires for war and death.

Pelosi has learned well how to smile as she kills.


Why I am glad to have left DKos (4.00 / 2)
Over at DKos, they are still dreaming about how a 100% Democratic party government will find enough backbone to write a sternly worded letter to the President to ask for hearings on starting an investigation into . . .

Dkos Promotes Fascism (0.00 / 0)
Daily Kos is Pro CIA and PRo War....why would anyone be confused about that...

The problem is ...for those who get confused...is that because some members say they want the troops home...others imagine that means they are against the war....

As with these "representatives" that some of you imagine are not whores to moneyed interests....they too...want the troops home....but NOT NOW.....SOMEDAY....."gradual troop withdrawals"..."time tables"...that's what McInsane, Killem" , and Obombah are all saying....and if you look at what they have said...it changes all the time...but all imply a permanent presence in Iraq to fight....(imaginary) terrorists...

And many of you "liberal" bloggers actually believe that there are "terrorists" in Iraq and that the safety of the United States is threatened by "terrorists"....

911 ...I have said since 9/12 was a one shot deal...it is deserves nothing more than a police action...not a military one and there are NO TERRORISTS on the horizon.

Why hasn't at least ONE TERRORIST taken a machine gun into the streets or in a shopping mall and mowed down some Americans???

The answer is ....nobody is interested enough to do that...therefore there are practically NO TERRORISTS that threaten America...

C'mon.

Daily Kos is a disgusting example of semi fascism at work...People who imagine they are "liberal" acting as fascist thugs in a cyber world game that is utterly meaningless.

Dkos promotes fascist candidates...Clinton and Obama who want to continue the slow killing of 1 million Iraqi's Afghanis, Somalians, Iranians, Pakistanis...

Some people think it was a good idea to go into Afghanistan....they are wrong! America had no business going in there...

The taliban and Bin Laden in all likelyhood had next to nothing to do with 911...Bin laden took credit for it after first denying it...for political reasons.

There is too much confusion about what has really happened and what is going on....meanwhile the American ship is sailing right off the cliff.

Look for a racially charged summer...turning Obama into a street thug, dope dealing, pimp.....(They are going to bring out his herion use big time and all that it implies)

The "liberal" Americans are going to have all their buttons pushed by the Republicans and their racism is going to GUSH OUT.

Stu Piddy...a free range human


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Elections v. activism (4.00 / 2)
The Dem Congress failure to do what they were elected to do in 2006 -- end the goddamn war -- reminds us why it is not enough to hope there is a D in the White House on Jan. 20.

We've got to raise enough hell that the pols are afraid not to do the right thing.  Somehow, we need to get the 70% of the people who say they oppose the war to get off their dead asses and do something.  Voting is obviously not enough.


Iraq Moratorium.  Do something.


Engage activists and get them to take the next step. (0.00 / 0)
Persuade them to run for office. Get them to come here and lead discussions on effective opposition to the war. Let's bridge the gap between thought and action.

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Anyone who held hope out for the Democrats (0.00 / 0)
...well, to quote Tom Waits,

"If you're living on hope, you're dancing to a terrible tune."


"Presumption is our natural and original malady" -- Montaigne

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