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The Impeachment of Eliot Spitzer

by: ek hornbeck

Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 15:46:33 PDT        
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My friends, the choice before us can not be more stark or more clear.

On the one hand we have a man who, if every single allegation and inference is proven true, paid money to have sex and tried to conceal that fact from his wife, the government, and the people who elected him.  He hypocritically denounced the crimes he was committing.

Hmm...

On the other hand we have a man who is a war criminal.  Who's administration has killed hundreds of thousands of innocents (maybe along with a few guilty). and rendered millions homeless refugees.  Who has condemned millions of women to Sharia Law and Burkas.  Who lied 935 times to us and the whole world.  Who is even now plotting to extend this illegal war that has damaged our national defense and our economy in a direction that will DESTROY IT!  We can not beat Iran.

We.  Will.  Lose.

Not only that, they have raped our Constitution and laws- Habeas Corpus, Torture and the Geneva Convention, Warrentless Wiretapping and National Security Letters, Ignored Supeonas and Signing Statements, Corruption of the Department of Justice and Selective Prosecution.

Made it happen on purpose or let it happen on purpose?  Katrina, Recession, Out of control Mercenary Armies, Poisoned Water Supplies, Crappy Equipment, Crappy Food, Crappy Leadership, and Embassies as big as the Vatican pre-built as non-functional ruins under no bid crony contracts.

These people are-

  • Thieves
  • Liars
  • Torturers
  • Murderers

And Traitors.
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The Second Circle

Let's talk about the New York State Republican Party shall we?

They are within 2 seats of losing their majority in the State Senate.  The last majority they have and are ever likely to in their lifetimes because the Republican Party of New York State has collapsed into regional insignificance.

There is no way at all they can get a single article of impeachment to the floor of the Assembly for a vote without-

  • Bi-Partisan Support

including the complicity of the Speaker and the Democratic leadership.

AND...

Despite it's sure and inevitable defeat they are willing to call for Eliot Spitzer's impeachment.

Because he's not popular.

Even though he's way more popular in every respect to W and his thieves, liars, torturers, murderers, and traitors except among the Villagers of the Beltway/NYC Media/Money/Politco Complex.

The Point

I'm not publicly calling the Spitzer Scandal another Monica-Gate.  Why would I when the script is as obvious as watching Jamie Sommers lip syncing Steve Austin's lines?

Can you only be threatened with impeachment if you're a Democrat in a sex scandal?
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The Impeachment of Eliot Spitzer | 47 comments
Vent Hole (4.00 / 22)
So I'm thinking of cross posting.

What do you think?

"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck

Yes... (4.00 / 13)
Cross post. You got to the heart of it pretty succinctly.

And yes. Only Dems go down for sexual dumbness. Something we have all been guilty of in our lives. Of course, I am not in public office, making public pronouncements either.

Perhaps the issue  is it will be an issue that eclipses others that will have far more impact on our lives. It  is an example of: hey look a shiny thing! Don't think about the recession, or the trillions being spend in Iraq, or the way the middle class is going to collapse into dust and the citizens of this country are heading toward indentured servitude.

Oops. Rant.

[ Parent ]
Please do! (4.00 / 8)
When I was at dKos yesterday and saw the vicious, self-righteous lynching party building there--for Spitzer, of course, not Bush/Cheney--I wanted to throw up.
[ Parent ]
You Might Want to Change the Title to... (4.00 / 7)
The Impeachment of Eliot Spitzer's Penis

The low-brow factor is really high over there.

 

[ Parent ]
Well... (4.00 / 7)
I'll admit I was thinking of-

PAY ATTENTION! THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT! in the title.

I'm thinking about this pre-whore, OND @ 12:05.

"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck

[ Parent ]
Aw come on (4.00 / 2)
I got 26 to recommend. And over a hundred comments.

Besides maybe you could knock one of the candidiaries off.
 

-4.00 -5.44 "A man who chooses not to read, is just as ignorant as the man who cannot read" Mark Twain

[ Parent ]
Hey. (4.00 / 7)
You wanted budhy to stir the pot, but he's power down and I'm your cheap substitute of inferior quality.

"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck
[ Parent ]
best things in life are cheap (4.00 / 5)
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[ Parent ]
Nothin cheap about you ek (4.00 / 3)


-4.00 -5.44 "A man who chooses not to read, is just as ignorant as the man who cannot read" Mark Twain
[ Parent ]
Yeah I thought he might be pricey.... (4.00 / 4)
Damn did I say that out loud?
[ Parent ]
WE LIKE IT (4.00 / 2)


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[ Parent ]
Crap. (4.00 / 5)
I can't do it!

I have dmsilev's FAQ diary tomorrow.

You wanna OND sub again?

"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck

[ Parent ]
Yep (4.00 / 5)
Remember the password?
[ Parent ]
I think so. (4.00 / 6)
I do have my emails saved.

I'll let you know.

Buzz buzz buzz says the busy bee.

"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck

[ Parent ]
Beats my little attempt (4.00 / 2)
Very well done. Much more thoughtful than my going off half cocked.

-4.00 -5.44 "A man who chooses not to read, is just as ignorant as the man who cannot read" Mark Twain
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Nope. (4.00 / 4)
You inspired me.

"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck
[ Parent ]
Here's the pre-Whore (4.00 / 7)
If it's Tuesday it must be a Pre-Whore

I have a lot to talk about.

Let's give it up for Pluto's Overnight News Digest.

It's incredibly nice of her to give up her diary to the Overnight News Digest franchise so I can mouth off-

The Impeachment of Eliot Spitzer (crossposted at DocuDharma).

Inspired by TexDem's much better On Spitzer and Impeachment.

The reason this is at all a problem is that tomorrow I'm substituting for dmsilev in FAQ Forum: which I can't provide a link to until 12:01 when I will get a new diary with the right URL.

I'll make sure I post my early pre-Whore as a reply to this as you wouldn't want to waste a word of ek goodness.


"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck

[ Parent ]
It's too late now. (4.00 / 3)
I'm entirely committed.

"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck
[ Parent ]
So the Fallon thing (4.00 / 10)
means war with Iran, you think?

You know George, this is not a contest to see how big a shitload can be left for the next president.

"The second teaching from the golden eternity is that there never was a first teaching from the golden eternity. So be sure."  Jack Kerouac


If people don't object... (4.00 / 8)
Yes.

"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck
[ Parent ]
he thinks this pile of shit (4.00 / 4)
is called a legacy. One he hopes in dementia will be carried on regardless of party.
[ Parent ]
Two words (4.00 / 5)
David Vitter.

Two more.  Senator Craig.

Two more.  It happens.

Two more.  Republicans suck.

Three more.  They enjoy it.

Another day, another devalued dollar.

Get ready for promotion. (4.00 / 6)
8 pm Eastern (if I figured out the time change, otherwise 9).

"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck
[ Parent ]
as I have been (4.00 / 4)
negligent about tuning in here and lazy (sex does that) are you telling me that the NY legislator is going to impeach him?
Bruno promises... (4.00 / 4)
48 hours unless he resigns.

"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck
[ Parent ]
Agree completely, but (4.00 / 1)
think it's apples and oranges.

Bush's crimes are on a worldwide scale.

Spitzer's crime (and, yes, agree or not, prostitution on both sides of the bed is a crime) is small potatos, in comparison.

But to condemn Spitzer is not to condone Bush.

Spitzer was full of hubris, was stupid, and opened himself up to blackmail and extortion (until the revelation).

Spitzer should go.  There are better people to fill his position, including many here (present company excluded).

One can go after Spitzer successfully and rightfully without having the same success with Bush.

Perhaps I should tag it... (4.00 / 4)
so it's understood it's all about impeaching W and not about Spitzer at all.

"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck
[ Parent ]
yep (4.00 / 3)


-4.00 -5.44 "A man who chooses not to read, is just as ignorant as the man who cannot read" Mark Twain
[ Parent ]
what? Is Impeachment (4.00 / 4)
only limited to sex and the dredge, the tainted DOJ or any branch Federal so corrupted to politics that it's priority's drag up the Mann and ignore flagrant violations of not only our Laws, the structural ones, the hard won historical rights , and by hook and crook nail each other for Sex? Prostitution is a crime not. insane! Mass murder and endless violations of the constitution get a pass as it's politically inconvenient or compromising? Right.  
[ Parent ]
Been thinking about this. (4.00 / 6)
Problem is the Repubs march in lockstep ... which is why Vitter and Craig still have their jobs.

Dems don't and never will march in lockstep.  So they can be peeled off to help the Repub agenda.  It stinks.

Happens locally and happens nationally.

I had posted this much earlier elsewhere. (4.00 / 4)
"Well, now that one man's life has been totaly ruined, do
you think we might get to see a list of the clientele of the Emperors Club VIP?

Oh, wait a minute, I forgot, the Repugs prefer young male prostitutes to come to the WH for their services.

The latest is: Assembly Minority Leader James Tedisco is going to call for impeachment proceedings against Spitzer unless he resigns within 48 hours.

Of course, this is the war on terror at work, you know, NSA spying on bank accounts, etc. and turning the information over to the FBI, and, voila, instant doom for one man. And, you and I are subject to the same NSA spying.

As I live and breathe, are my eyes deceiving me? But in the name of lie, upon lie, upon lie, Bush and the Repugs are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, and, yet, there's no impeachment proceedings?"



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Oh I see... (4.00 / 5)
Eliot Spitzer is the issue because he let us down with his nasty ass sex? Eugene at DK has a decent diary about the shady under pinnings of this 'story'. Right how shocking, pols are like rock/pop stars their motivation is hooked to their zippers. Who the fuck cares, my only "oh brother", is that he made his bones busting prostitution rings.

How ever, this reeks to high heaven. DOJ is nothing more then the political arm of the 'gotcha' mindless right wing. Politics makes stranger and stranger bedfellows, as someone I scorn as a Clintonista  Lawrence O'Donnell said last night, and I paraphrase: 'Surely there are more important things to investigate, sad that this is what they chose.'Is this what FISA gives us and is this it's intent?

Is this what justice is about?  This does not bode well for anyone interested in the actual restoration of Law. This is what they mine, the nuggets of smear that they use for politics down and dirty, but hey it's just vetting all part of the game, Right? Meanwhile back at the ranch a lunatic is our King!  They all suck but you gotta use the pieces you get, right?

               

In a word? (4.00 / 2)
yes.

Well the first man comes along that can read Latin is welcome to rob us, far as I'm concerned. I'd like a chance t' shoot at a educated man once in my life. Gus McCrae, Lonesome Dove
where's NPK? (4.00 / 5)
this essay needs... DEMANDS... a rec button.



Well the first man comes along that can read Latin is welcome to rob us, far as I'm concerned. I'd like a chance t' shoot at a educated man once in my life. Gus McCrae, Lonesome Dove

she swoops in ... (4.00 / 6)
... magically producing rec button ...

... and swoops out again.

[ Parent ]
thanks! (4.00 / 4)
want to keep this on the essay list!

love it when ek writes like this.

Well the first man comes along that can read Latin is welcome to rob us, far as I'm concerned. I'd like a chance t' shoot at a educated man once in my life. Gus McCrae, Lonesome Dove

[ Parent ]
pfiore8 its ME --> <*o^> (4.00 / 3)
I emaild you a presant

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DO with as you wish (4.00 / 2)


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Arrrrrgh. (4.00 / 4)
I just got back from being away for 2+ weeks.  Earlier today I read the NYT Spitzer story from my Blackberry (had to translate it as I went) to a Mayan friend while we were driving to an airport in Mexico.  He shrugged about it.  "That happens here, too."

I think the biggest problem isn't the sex, it's the possible federal crime from "structuring" the payments (mid 5 figures after the $?) so that they wouldn't be discovered.  He apparently did a crappy job at this.  Now he might have to resign to make a deal with the fed prosecutors, who had to be authorized to follow the case by the AG.

Maybe I'm a day late and a dollar short on this, but for a smart lawyer who has prosecuted others for these very kinds of bogus financial transactions, wtf was he thinking?

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Stagflation Making Cost of Hookers Unacceptably High, Spitzer Says (4.00 / 2)
I wish I had stayed in South America. (4.00 / 1)
I don't sleep much these days and this morning at 4am I was watching CSPAN's senate hearings called by Byron Dorgan with the judge from Iraq's high court whose life was threatened, and his house bombed, it is pretty much thought by Iraq's ruling clique. Plus the money he was given to start corruption hearings against corruption amongst contractor during Paul Bremer's CPI tenure was literally confiscated by the Iraqi Ministry of Finance. He is seeking asylum here, the State Department is not willing to listen to his crages of corruption in Iraq and the disappearabnce of BILLIONs of American taxpayer money in the sinkhole of Iraq. Not a peep in the press!  

I switch to CSPAN's Washington Journal and they are talking about yesterdays's resignation of Admiral Fallon, possibly the last man standing between Bush/Cheney and war with Iran. Nobody cares, or few anyway.

Then I switch to MSNBC's morning show and the entire nation, through the MSM has got it's collective knickers in a twist over Eliot Spitzer's carnal misdeeds  spending #15,000 (not BILLIONS) on hookers.

The blogosphere is having a collective psychotic break over an elderly white woman calling a black man black by saying he has not had to go through the same hoops and jump the same hurdles she had to jump when she dared to be the first woman to try and shatter the glass ceiling thirty years ago.  I have no idea what she meant and it was clumsy, it was however quite true. Geraldine Ferraro would not have been asked to be Walter Mondale's running mate had she been a white man.  Why didn't john Edwards campaign attain the movement Obama's has? he was everything the progressive community said it dreamed of.  He was youngish, he was progressive, he was visionary and inspirational, he had a charismatic wife and young kids. He represented as much real change as Obama promises.  Could it have been because he was white?

i am feeling the effects of elderly abuse in the blogosphere and it scares me to death. for the very first time i am considering claiming citizenship by descent for my family and returning to Europe. In any even I shall no longer participate in the election season, even here where most people are saner than they are in the stinking swillpool that has become DKos, led by their fearless leader and front page hitmen.  I still respect a few of their main posters but get sick when I go there. There is no reason and they are destroying any chance for any kind of eventual party unity.

I hope you all can survive what is happening in this nation. It will get   worse, that i promise you.  I've had it.
 

Well... (4.00 / 1)
I hope you don't feel marginalized here.  As I have said I think the Presidential race is a huge distraction from our very real problems and I'm not convinced that either candidate advances a progressive agenda at all.

As for dK, it is a very large place, and in times of trouble it is perhaps best to seek quieter corners and mutter under your breath.

I'm a full quarter Danish and I often think about visiting the consulate.

"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck

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no, I don't feel marginalized at all (4.00 / 1)
it is mostly my son who feels having other options is a good thing, not a bad thing. he was born in the window of opportunity that allows him under UK citizenship laws to claim   citizenshiop by descent.

the interesting aspect is that it is only fairly recently (not mnths bu years anyway) that they changed the laws because anyone born to a British FATHER (MAN)  could always claim   citizenship by dexcent even if they were born elsewhere (He was born in the US and his father is a naturalized American citizen). Then as the laws werre gradually changed to  balance discrimination against women, it was chaned to allow children to claim descent if the MOTHER (WOMAN)was a British citizen at the time of birth.

I thought hat was interesting in view of the gender and race   wars being played out. Rights have always been an incremental thing and women still are not equal under the law in the US.

No, my gloom and doom is based more on the feeling that I to, have a feeling that neither of these so-called historic candidates is going to change much of anything.

As for visiting DK or anywhere else for that matter, I am an invetaerate news and politicis junky and can no more stay away than a bluebottle can avoid rotton meat.

It will all turn out one way or another. I still think having options is a good thing!  Not to run away, just to be able to maximise one's opportunities. Which is whey i mae myself legal when i came here, not because i was burning with patriotism to be an American. I just needed to work legally!  still feel the same way.  I am not a nationalist of any nation. I am a universalist.

[ Parent ]
OK ek (4.00 / 1)
I found this, do we have to Rate each other?

Can we just have a webpage for everyone who lost the Homecoming Prince/Princess contest?  

I don't care if you like me, or my comments, that is So Kos.

Enough.

"Fanaticism and ignorance is forever busy, and needs feeding."

And if the (4.00 / 1)
Audience here is so insecure about how they will be rated, Bravo TV probably has a Reality show for you.

Gawd, there is No Excuse............Rove is laughing.

"Fanaticism and ignorance is forever busy, and needs feeding."

Ratings here... (0.00 / 0)
are entirely harmless.

Wrong! means wrong.  Hide means hide.

Disruptive posters are discussed by the Board in private.

Pony means- I read this and I think it's great!

I don't think anyone here is insecure about ratings, but we are a public blog and unfortunately some people engage in cross blog stalking.

So don't be stupid.

"I like irony except I find that if you just toss your clothes in the dryer for a few minutes you hardly ever have to use it."- ek hornbeck

[ Parent ]
I think (0.00 / 0)
U told me that before.  Noted.

"Fanaticism and ignorance is forever busy, and needs feeding."
[ Parent ]
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