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by: fatdave

Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 22:02:25 PDT


Did you ever meet someone you'd swear you'd never met before? Converse with them? Touch them? Know them? All in the first glancing contact of eyes, the first shake of hands the first exchange of words?

I ask this partly to answer a question for somebody else and partly for me. To see whether anybody else has ever experienced the strangest thing that ever happened to me.

fatdave :: Have we met?
It happened some years ago. I'm an Engineer by profession and a company buy out and asset strip had left those of us unprepared to uproot with time on our hands. I put my CV around various companies and agencies and took a job with the phone company as an operator to keep the wolf from the door. I did my 3 weeks training to learn how to drive their computers and how to handle emergency calls for the Fire,Police and Ambulance - we covered the Central,North and West London areas so I expected it to be interesting as I was to work on a permanent night shift.

After passing the set tests I went with my headset and books of destructions to the Switchroom, feeling like a new kid that joins a class halfway through term. I sat by myself the first couple of nights, then noticed that some half noticed glances in the corner of my eye were becoming more frequent. I caught one and it hit me like a 155mm artillery shell. And another....and more ...and more over the next couple of days, each accompanied by a smile so warm, so utterly beautiful that of course I smiled back- how couldn't I?

Then came the source to me, unbidden and of her own free will. We would talk there in the dimlit gloom of that nine-tenths empty switchroom, talk of the deep and the dark, shock ourselves with what each knew without learning of the other's dreams and desires, fancies and failures. We agreed that we had undoubtedly known each other before. It was too complex for coincidence. My heart was played and played right back as we flew through the clear lights of time, space and history, embracing without touching, caressing without contact, understanding without the sweet joy of expression. We knew that we had been before, we recognised each other immediately, we told each other.

We knew of course that we had other commitments and duties. We knew that if we continued to fly together that we would inevitably want more - and that for always. That what seemed inevitable must be made impossible as maybe it always was. So a line was drawn by the hands of two and never was it to be crossed, lest others, innocent and trusting, be hurt. An unforgettable parting took place and it was the nearest thing I've known to a bereavement. But it will happen again, as it has happened before and so many times across these centuries - you'll know it if you see it. No one got hurt but me and the Witch of Time and I hope that this cold unfeasibly weighty stone that I carry in my heart is penance enough for being in a circumstance against which I was essentially powerless.

It is why I always doubletake when I catch a waft of Paris from a woman.

It is why I can't hear the word "Seattle" without a groan escaping my soul and,

It is why I wonder if anybody else has known someone at another time. Before.

 

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it's taken me some time (4.00 / 14)
to form some sort of reply to you... the large expanse of white seems ver unfriendly this AM, or maybe my head is cotton from cold medicine...
my husband calls that immediate knowing a duprass...

I googled & its a term made up by Vonnegut in Cat's Cradle- A duprass is a karass composed of only two persons. The members of a duprass die within a week of each other. A team of two which can't be invaded, not even by children born of such a union. A duprass is a valuable instrument for gaining and developing, in the privacy of an interminable love affair, insights that are queer but true.

We both think we have that...are a duprass, and yes I think we've done this before, many times before actually, in many lives.

I feel that it took many lives until we could be together..I don't know why I feel that... I believe that you will, one day, one lifetime, be together...maybe later in this lifetime or in another...but it will happen, it can't not.

{{{{*{fatdave}*}}}}

come firefly-dreaming with me..&..do no harm


Thanks Ria. (3.73 / 11)
Fresh weed last night and if I hadn't have been so mullah'd I'd have written things down different. I'm glad you understood.

...patently unclear if it's New York or new year.....Nick Lowe

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lol! (4.00 / 5)
"mullah'd"-love it!

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you did just enough, extremely well (4.00 / 2)
& having slept some more with this horrible cold (where i do my best thinking) I believe theres different levels of duprass... the one quoted from Vonnegut above (that IS quoted btw, even if I forgot the quote marks)..and then there are what I call 'extreme'friendships...I feel that alot with Pfiore8...she just gets me, & I her...even though we've never really met except online... maybe those are 'thru the ages' too?
I'm back to bed...no story today, sorry

come firefly-dreaming with me..&..do no harm

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Get well soon Ria. (4.00 / 3)
Dad might be Pickle's code. Dad wod a dnotty one doo.

...patently unclear if it's New York or new year.....Nick Lowe

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yes, i have... (4.00 / 11)
and imagine my guilt, because i have a much deeper 'bond' with one of my children than i do with the other.

one of my children is my 'spit-n-image', as we say in the 'states, and one is the picture of her father.  and they each seem to 'belong' to one of us.  i parent them the same, and until the eldest's (the one who's 'mine') accident, i treated them the 'same', though age appropriately....

but the oldest and i just had a much easier relationship...and we were almost always together.  the younger would choose to stay with her dad or her grammy, but 'mine' would always want to be with me when she could.  in high school, she would get up insanely early on her days off school to come to work with me!!  she would lie to her friends some weekends and tell them she couldnt go out, or had other plans, and stay home and watch tv with me instead of going out with them.  it was weird.  i even sometimes worried.

and, even as a toddler, she just 'got' me. i thought she was weirdly wise...an 'old soul'...and she might be...but it was mostly just me she connected with....or chose to.  one of the reasons our relationship was so effortless was that we never had to explain ourselves to the other...we just understood.  i always respected her choices.....mostly because she always seemed to make the choice that i would have. 

ria's 'die within a week of each other' theory has me a little creeped that it isnt part of the reason she survived an accident she had little chance of surviving...and 'hangs around' on this planet in a brain state that could hardly be called totally 'present'...

i had another similar experience with a man who walked into the bank i worked in one day.  it was a lot like you describe, only more immediate.  from the moment i 'felt' him walk in the door, i couldnt look away from him.  and we only had a few chances to chat, cut short by the fact that i was working...and then he moved on to another city with the work he was doing (some sort of consulting...??) 

and then ive had many many experiences of 'knowing things', both me about others, and vice versa, that have been less intense but weirdly coincidental just the same...

"You don't have a soul.
You are a soul.
You have a body." ~C.S. Lewis


oh, and p.s..... (4.00 / 7)
wonderfully written essay, dave.  thank you for sharing.

"You don't have a soul.
You are a soul.
You have a body." ~C.S. Lewis


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Thanks 73v. (4.00 / 5)
and thanks for explaining about your daughter. I had seen references in your posts but I didn't like to ak for fear of intruding.

...patently unclear if it's New York or new year.....Nick Lowe

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i discuss it pretty openly (4.00 / 4)
she was in a car accident 2 1/2 years ago, at age 16 and nearly died.  she is now a non-verbal quadriplegic, but still making progress. 

"You don't have a soul.
You are a soul.
You have a body." ~C.S. Lewis


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Such a strange part of life, 73rd virgin! That that which seems (4.00 / 3)
so "complete" is the most often vulnerable!  As though we only have permission to experience it but for a fleeting moment.

Thank you for sharing -- I hope your daughter continues to improve! 

"At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst."--Aristotle


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i know (4.00 / 5)
that story...

secret dave? sometimes what you've found gets crushed in the aftershocks of destruction

and then there's nothing...  but you... you still have your mrs. fd

take another look...

simplify... writing in the rAw


A little voice last night (4.00 / 4)
was saying to me...."You'll go too far"..."You'll alienate people and they'll think you were a cheating husband". However I look at what happened there is a degree of wrongness that I have to acknowledge and the inner argument that many have about the nature of love and whether it is possible to be in love with 2 people at the same time - even though the way it manifests is different.

I shall never know. I do know that mrs fd and I will be together throughout this, our first meeting. We made a wonderful being and are closer than ever since I got sick. She is and will remain my first and last waking thoughts.

The part of my being that remembers what has gone so many times before will continue to yearn quietly. But that is for another time, when what remains here is dust and gone. Not for now.

...patently unclear if it's New York or new year.....Nick Lowe


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thanks (4.00 / 4)
for the story...

"dimlit gloom of that nine-tenths empty switchroom"

fucking great...

simplify... writing in the rAw


Very touching first dairy, Dave! (4.00 / 5)
Mr. C and I have exactly that. 
The VERY second we made eye contact we both instantaneously fell in love again.  I felt like crying because I had found something that I had treasured and recaptured, tears came streaming down my cheeks as I walked away from him, shaking.  I was in shock, the adrenaline high was that as I've never known before or since...I was standing right next to a very good friend of mine, and I mumbled something incoherent to her, but she understood...she saw it happen.  She and I both think I said "That man is going to be my life." (or husband, not exactly sure what the last word was) and we have been in love, through thick and thin, for more than 12 years.

And as 73rd was saying about her girls, one dad's and the other one mom's, I think our children feel our connection and share in it with us.  We all have a hard time being away from each other, and when dad is fishing in the summers, it's almost intolerable for us.  When it's time to go to school, neither of them really want to go, even though they know they will have fun, they would rather stay home with mommy.
I feel like we were all meant to be together, the roads that lead my husband and I to meet in the first place were twisty, curvy and rather hilly-it's a wonder we ever met at all.  That is a story all on its' own and maybe one day I'll put it in writing...

Thank you Dave for sharing such an intimate portrait of yourself, romantically sad yet undeniably real.

{{{{Dave}}}}


Thank you Kris. (4.00 / 4)
I don't sleep regular times so I'm often in my  little alcove here through the night and, having opened the box last week, tried to explain my melancholy and the comfort I derive from those shadows.

...patently unclear if it's New York or new year.....Nick Lowe

Beautiful, fatdave! (4.00 / 5)
It is an amazing experience (deja vu?) of this life to somehow feel an instantaneous connectiveness to another being, all too often ending "unlived."

But, despite the occasional melancholia and ache from it, I believe you were wise in your disposition toward it.

"At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst."--Aristotle


Thank you tahoebasha. (4.00 / 3)
Wisdom and I generally travel in opposite directions, though we have been waving when we pass recently.

...patently unclear if it's New York or new year.....Nick Lowe

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On further thinking, fatdave, I have some consolation in the (4.00 / 2)
premises.  I think that the "instant" recognition (by both of you) of what it was was the very thing that enabled each of you to "leave" -- satisfied in that understanding!  Even if not "honored."

I hope this makes sense!

"At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst."--Aristotle


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Yes, fdave. (4.00 / 3)
I know of what you've written so beautifully. Thank you. I'm in it now. I can't turn away. I don't want to.

Seul l’incrédule a droit au miracle. - Elias Canetti

I am happy for you! n/t! (4.00 / 2)


"At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst."--Aristotle

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Nice essay, fatdave. (4.00 / 5)
Here's a song about what you wrote:

Of course you had met before, you don't need me or anyone else to tell you that, your heart told you and that's all you need.

Yearning is a fine thing.  It keeps your heart open and vulnerable, as it should be.

The story is never over.  Thanks for sharing this with us.


Wow NPK! (4.00 / 3)
I never heared that one before. The writers had it though. Your words are very kind - thank you.

Dion and the Belmonts! Runaround Sue! I used to  shout that into a hairbrush when I was so little that I had short pants, dirty legs and sometimes a narrow clean stripe down one of them!

...patently unclear if it's New York or new year.....Nick Lowe


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Okay this is over (4.00 / 4)
nocatz is here.......

snap out of it O-larger- than -average one.

just , y'know..B. Goode



It was YOU you dolt. - RiaD

After us the Salamanders - Karel Capek


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