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Obama SLAMS Sen. Lincoln and centrist Dem Senators! About frikkin time

by: MinistryOfTruth

Wed Feb 03, 2010 at 11:46:55 PST        
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(11 am. - promoted by ek hornbeck)

From today's meeting between President Obama and Senate Democrats today comes this gem . . . .

   
"If the price of certainty is essentially for us to adopt the exact same proposals that were in place for eight years leading up to the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression -- we don't tinker with health care, let the insurance companies do what they want, we don't put in place any insurance reforms, we don't mess with the banks, let them keep on doing what they're doing now because we don't want to stir up Wall Street -- the result is going to be the same," he said. "I don't know why we would expect a different outcome pursuing the exact same policy that got us into this fix in the first place."

    Middle class Americans, Obama said, "are more and more vulnerable, and they have been for the last decade, treading water. And if our response ends up being, you know, because we don't want to -- we don't want to stir things up here, we're just going to do the same thing that was being done before, then I don't know what differentiates us from the other guys. And I don't know why people would say, boy, we really want to make sure that those Democrats are in Washington fighting for us."

huffingtonpost.com



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   The question that inspired this response from our President and more below the fold.

MinistryOfTruth :: Obama SLAMS Sen. Lincoln and centrist Dem Senators! About frikkin time
     That response was directed at Sen. Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas who had asked this ridiculous question of the President. Apparently, Blanche missed out on the "Great Republican Retreat" and didn't get the memo that this President will make you look stupid if you ask a stupid question.

    She asked: "Are we willing, as Democrats, not only to reach out to Republicans, but to push back in our own party for people who want extremes, and look for the common ground that's going to get us the success that we need not only for our constituents, but for our country, in this global community, in this global economy?"

huffingtonpost.com

    In essence, what Senator Lincoln is saying is that Democrats should abandon their platform and be more like Republicans. The same Republicans who created almost all of the problems we face as a nation today. The same Republicans who the voters rejected overwhelmingly in the last 2 election cycles. If I were writing a book titled "How to lose your base and alienate voters" I would ask Blanche Lincoln to right the foreword.

    I think Obama is starting to get it. Electorally, Democrats can NOT win without the support of their liberal and progressive base. That base will NOT support Democrats come election time if Democrats and their efforts are never more liberal than the most Conservative Democrat in the Senate allows it to be. If liberals and progressives such as myself don't know what differentiates the Democratic party from the other guys why should we even bother to show up and vote? Of course, I know the answer to that one and you probably do as well, but millions and millions of Democratic voters do not. They will say "Screw it, what's the difference?" and they will stay home, and Democrats will get their asses kicked in 2010 because they decided to move to the right and kick hippies instead of kicking Conservative ass. We voted for change we can believe in, not change that we watered down until it looked just like the Conservatives were in charge.

    When every policy coming out of Washington must receive Conservative approval while liberals and progressives are always forced to accept the "It's better than nothing" compromise, after a while the activist base of the left that delivered for Democrats in 2006 and 2008 will eventually start to think that the Democratic party just isn't that into us. The gap in voter enthusiasm between the left and right is not based on a rejection of liberalism by the voters, it is based on the disgust liberals are feeling at watching liberalism being rejected by the Democrats in power.

    If you want your left wing base to be fired up and ready to go come election time we have to start seeing some of that change we can believe in. Obama can inspire us. Legislation that represents real change we can believe in inspires us. Centrist sell outs like Evan Bayh, Blanche Lincoln and Joe frigging Lieberman inspires NO BODY. They suck. They suck big time, and if Democrats really want to keep the majorities we gave them in 2006 and 2008 they have to stop pretending that every Dem voter is Ben Nelson or Blanche Lincoln.

    Of course, words are nice, but what I and progressives like me really want to see is ACTION. It's one thing for Obama to say something that rejects centrist Dem Senators calls for capitulation, it's another thing to DO SOMETHING that shows that Dems are ready to beat Conservatives and not just the hippies and other "left of the lefters" who worked their asses off to get them elected.

    After months of watching Joe Lieberman control the debate in the Democratically controlled Senate, watching Bush Blue Dogs fight for Conservative policies and watching the Howard Dean's of the world get pushed away while the Bart Stupak's of the world get a pass I am glad to see the "Let's be more like the Republicans" wing of the Democratic party get a rhetorical shoe thrown at them by President Obama. Sure it ain't much, but it's better than nothing, and that is a good start.

    I hope to see MORE and BETTER in the near future, and not just words, but ACTION.

Also crossposted at ProgressiveElectorate.com

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The implicit assumption (4.00 / 2)
on Lincoln's part being that the Republicans are not extreme?

Like the Republican who demagogues on family values and on the side wore a diaper and had a hooker whip him?

Like the Republicans who have admitted openly that their primary objective wasn't to pass legislation good for the American people, but was instead to "break" Obama?

Like the Republicans who hid the fact that one of their own was having sexually explicit with teenage interns?

Like the Republican who admitted it was not customary to worry about paying for things during Republican rule?

Like the Republican who called Matthew Shepard's murder at the hands of homophobes a "hoax"?

Like the Republicans who spent all kinds of time trying to destroy ACORN, but defended Xe from having to go to court when one of its employees was raped by other employees?

Like the Republicans who have called the "threat" of gay people being more dangerous than terrorism?

Leftists are extreme but Republicans are not?  These examples of Republican behavior aren't extreme?

Make a promise, take a vow, and trust your feelings, it's easy now, understand the voice within, and feel a change, already beginning - Moody Blues, The Voice


from kck at DKos (4.00 / 1)
Obama agreed with her on the push back
OBAMA: So the point I'm making -- and Blanche is exactly right -- we've got to be non-ideological about our approach to these things. We've got to make sure that our party understands that, like it or not, we have to have a financial system that is healthy and functioning, so we can't be demonizing every bank out there. We've got to be the party of business, small business and large business, because they produce jobs. We've got to be in favor of competition and exports and trade. We don't want to be looking backwards. We can't just go back to the New Deal and try to grab all the same policies of the 1930s and think somehow they'd work in the 21st century.

     So Blanche is exactly right that sometimes we get ideologically bogged down. I just want to find out what works, and I know you do, too, and I know the people in Arkansas do, too.

Taken out of context?  Don't know.  


Thanks for the important clarification (4.00 / 1)


Obama has not "slammed" Blanche Lincoln, or any other centrist-Corporatist piece of junk in the Senate.

In fact, he agrees wholeheartedly with their approach, as his own actions and choices continuously illustrate over and over again.  All he did here, was simply provide a little "candy" in his response to balance out his otherwise ringing endorsement of the approach to govern "non-ideologically" -- as if there had never been a 2008 Election, and as if the policies of Bush-Cheney had never been reputiated.


"I don't know why we would expect a different outcome pursuing the exact same policy that got us into this fix in the first place."

Obama has no credibility here to criticize anyone for pursuing the same policy.

This is the very description of Obama's own War & Foreign Policies (Bush's 3rd-term), and his own handling of the HCR, Banking problems, and DOJ/rule-of-law/civil-Liberties matters.





"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold, is for
people of good conscience to remain silent."
    --Thomas Jefferson


[ Parent ]
SS will be a fight, you betcha! (0.00 / 0)
We can't just go back to the New Deal and try to grab all the same policies of the l930s and think somehow they'd work in the 21st century.

Hey, he forgot to throw in a compliment to Ronnie as well.  

"Disappointment and bourbon are hard on the heart."  (Amanda McBroom, Errol Flynn)


[ Parent ]
No, because after all this failed. (0.00 / 0)
We can't just go back to the New Deal and try to grab all the same policies of the 1930s and think somehow they'd work in the 21st century.

Has O been listening to Rush lately?  


i love the smell of bipartisanship in the morning...
smells like...fucktory. -bubanomics


[ Parent ]
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