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Bill Moyers Journal tonite: "The Good Soldier" documentary film

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Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 15:49:51 PST        
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Tonight on Bill Moyers Journal on PBS, Moyers will present excerpts for the documentary film, The Good Soldier.

As America prepares to observe Veterans Day and President Obama weighs sending more troops to fight in Afghanistan, BILL MOYERS JOURNAL broadcasts a powerful documentary about the impact on soldiers of learning to kill - or be killed. THE GOOD SOLDIER follows four veterans - one from World War II, two from Vietnam, and the fourth from Iraq - as they reveal how the experiences of battle changed their lives.

Watch a preview here.

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Hound Dog :: Bill Moyers Journal tonite: "The Good Soldier" documentary film
The Good Soldier will be theatrically released, and will be available also on DVD.

A synopsis from The Good Soldier website, where you can also locate screenings, read reviews, and find further links:

Directed by Lexy Lovell and Michael Uys (DGA, Los Angeles Film Critics, and Peabody Award winners for Riding the Rails)

The Good Soldier follows the journeys of five combat veterans from different generations of American wars as they sign up, go into battle, and eventually change their minds about what it means to be a good soldier.

Here's what Jason Albert of the Onion has to say:

"It's hard to imagine watching a more affecting movie than The Good Soldier ... because it may be as affecting a movie as I've ever seen. It took one seemingly simple question-What makes a good soldier?-and reduced the answer to its essence. That being, the ability to kill other human beings. Using the voices of veterans from WWII, Vietnam, the Gulf War, and Iraq, each gave this exact same answer, and they all spoke not only of their guilt and regret, but also of how at some point during their time in the military they needed to kill. Their reasons were different, but the training that gave them the skills and permission was not. I found it both hard to watch and hard to turn away from, and I know I'll never look at the words 'collateral damage' in the same way again. Really powerful stuff."

Further comments from Jason Albert:

Reading over it, I felt like I might have implied that the soldiers featured were monsters. All of them were visibly haunted by their pasts, and have found ways to come to grips with the tasks they were required to perform. In some cases by regularly protesting, and in the case of Will Williams, by founding the Madison Area Peace Coalition. These were all good men who were deeply affected by the fallout from their wars, and each has done whatever they can to make a difference. I cannot get the image out of my mind of Iraq veteran Jimmy Massey standing alone on a street corner in North Carolina in battle fatigues holding a sign that said: 'I killed innocent civilians for our government,' as someone pulled up next to him and yelled: 'You shouldn't be protesting our government wearing that uniform!' "

Another review, from The Good Soldier website:

An astounding film, "The Good Soldier" directed by Lexy Lovell and Michael Uys should be mandatory viewing for every President and member of Congress who is willing to make the decision to send men and women into war. In a culture where many veterans do not speak back home of what they witnessed and participated in battle, this film portrays five combat veterans from different wars ranging from WWII to Vietnam to the Gulf War to Iraq who emotionally lay it on the line. The sheer humanity of such inhumane situations is astounding and riveting and heartbreaking. The courage it takes for these soldiers to speak of their darkest moments and moral dilemmas with such brutal honesty is to be commended and brings up questions of our government supporting those they would send to die who did not die but came home. "Life is more difficult than death," one comments.

"War puts you at odds with what is right and wrong," one veteran explains. Their training as soldiers is to become killers without remorse, but as one asks, "How do you turn that off? One day you're killing then the next you're sitting at a bar in New York City." In wars where the enemy looks just like the innocent civilian, "collateral damage" leaves its mark on the psyche of the soldiers which haunts them for the rest of their lives. As one veteran who is a founder of Veterans for Peace states, "War is not the way to settle a disagreement."

- HipHamptons.com Must See Films: Hamptons International Film Festival - Conflict and Resolution Section

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Bill Moyers website also has a list of links of resources for veterans, and information and links for the Library of Congress's Veterans' History Project.

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thanks, Ill be sure to watch (4.00 / 8)
comes on at 9PM in my house

powerful stuff

No justice, no peace.


Michael McPhearson of Veterans For Peace (4.00 / 9)
is one of the soldiers in the film.  

What will appear on Moyers, I believe, will not be the entire film.  I don't know if Michael's segment will air on tv tonight or not.

I have great esteem for Michael.  I participated in a sit-in at Russ Carnahan's office (D-MO) during the Occupation Project as few years ago with Michael and other VFP members.  Michael and one other VFP member chose to remain after the official office closing time, and were arrested as a result of the peaceful civil disobedience, and were promptly released upon posting bond.

A few give much, a few give all, but most Americans give.....NOTHING!  Support our troops~~~~Bring them home.


[ Parent ]
I'll tell you the sit-in I thought of. Simple. Effective, (4.00 / 3)
I believe.

Simply have moms and children go to the offices, have the mom announce, "We're here to hang out till the Congressman/woman / Senator decides to begin voting against funding for the Iraq war."

Then proceed to play with the kids, color, play games, read books, whatever, treat it just like it's your own living room. For at least an hour, maybe 2. As soon as she and her kids are ready to leave, here comes another mom. When she leaves, another arrives. No one stays long enough to be arrested. Or, you could have 2 moms/children there at the same time, moms gossiping with each other, children playing with each other.

Have you ever tried to WORK with children around? It is completely and utterly impossible. I will guarantee you, that if you scheduled even 6 hours of this in one week, better if more, the staffers would begin to exert pressure on the congresscritter to change the vote.

It's perfect, because what're you gonna do? Call the police to harass some moms and children? No way.

"This health care system is a moral atrocity." Dr. RalphDog (on blog)


[ Parent ]
Damn! (4.00 / 2)
Why have I not heard this idea before?  Why have I never thought of it?  Good gawd, that is simple brilliance, Allison!

A few give much, a few give all, but most Americans give.....NOTHING!  Support our troops~~~~Bring them home.

[ Parent ]
Thank you! (4.00 / 1)
Frankly, I thought so too when it occurred to me, in a manner of speaking.

You know how sometimes you think, "Damn! This would really WORK!!"

"This health care system is a moral atrocity." Dr. RalphDog (on blog)


[ Parent ]
I PRAISE you, Allison (4.00 / 2)
for that elegantly brilliant idea.

Do you mind if I cut and paste this and put it in an All Points Bulletin and send it to people I know who actually work for bringing our troops home? letting them know it was Allison in Seattle's idea?

Please say, "Go for it!"

A few give much, a few give all, but most Americans give.....NOTHING!  Support our troops~~~~Bring them home.


[ Parent ]
Oh, you can ALWAYS "go for it" when you see it on the (4.00 / 1)
Internet, I think. I mean, don't people post on blogs because they want their ideas to be seen?

And what better than to actually be USED?

If you can get the idea moving, please be my guest.  And if it gets acted on, please let me know.

Sorry late reply, wasn't snooping around here much for couple days. Forgot to ck the "replies to comments". Thanks for all your kind compliments.

"This health care system is a moral atrocity." Dr. RalphDog (on blog)


[ Parent ]
I have been scarce too. (4.00 / 1)
well, yeah, you've got a point.  If it's on the internet, it's stealable, though I try to avoid it.  Just my way of hat tipping and genuflecting to your brilliant idea, m'dear.  Now, I've decided to have more children, and I want you to be their mother!  ; - )

A few give much, a few give all, but most Americans give.....NOTHING!  Support our troops~~~~Bring them home.

[ Parent ]
And here's his story about the event.... (4.00 / 6)
http://vfp109rcc.org/Michael-T...

A few give much, a few give all, but most Americans give.....NOTHING!  Support our troops~~~~Bring them home.

[ Parent ]
Michael's segment did not appear (4.00 / 4)
with the portion that aired on Moyers journal.  The film is longer than an hour, so Moyers was not able to present all of it.

Also, though Moyers' programs usually can be watched on-line, his website says that this specific program will not be avaialable due to copyright.

The 11 minute preview CAN be seen, though, at Moyers website.

Also, click here http://thegoodsoldier.com/ to learn what theaters will be screening the film beginning on Veterans' Day, Nov. 11.  DVDs can also be obtained.

A few give much, a few give all, but most Americans give.....NOTHING!  Support our troops~~~~Bring them home.


[ Parent ]
Just watched the 9 pm airing... (4.00 / 5)
...going to switch to another channel and watch it again at 10 pm.  I usually watch Moyers, but thanks for the notice.  Are you a vet, houndog?

I have a bit to say on this subject.  But don't know when it will come out.

The fierce urgency of now.  Martin


I am a veteran of nothing. (4.00 / 3)
My dad was a WWII vet, my brother is Nam vet, and my son is a veteran of Iraq, and now is in Afghan.

I'm the family slacker, it would seem!

A few give much, a few give all, but most Americans give.....NOTHING!  Support our troops~~~~Bring them home.


[ Parent ]
You are a veteran of parenthood (4.00 / 2)
We all serve this country in one way or another, by voting, paying taxes, raising our children and making our voices heard. I hope your son returns safe and well from Afghanistan. Blessed Be.

"By the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes.", Wm. Shakespeare, "Macbeth"

[ Parent ]
Thank you for your (4.00 / 2)
kind sentiments, my dear, all of which I will accept.

A few give much, a few give all, but most Americans give.....NOTHING!  Support our troops~~~~Bring them home.

[ Parent ]
Good on ya... (4.00 / 2)
...and good luck and best wishes to your son.

The fierce urgency of now.  Martin

[ Parent ]
Worked with guy who was Vietnam Vet. Fearless (4.00 / 5)
it had left him fearless, in a way that was remarkable to behold. I don't mean undamaged, he was very damaged. Not normal at all, but didn't try to hide it. He'd come so close to death so many times, that he had no fear of it, which gave him a type of social fearlessness also.

He was part of some trained group that would get dropped in pairs behind enemy lines to go assassinate the other side's leaders... I think as much as possible in their sleep.

He said, "If I'd known what I'd be made to do, I'd have gone to Canada."

And, "If there's another war, I AM going to Canada, so my son never has to fight in it."

"This health care system is a moral atrocity." Dr. RalphDog (on blog)


Thanks for this... (4.00 / 1)
...War is indeed a dirty business.

The fierce urgency of now.  Martin

[ Parent ]
Thanks for the heads up. (4.00 / 2)
I have programmed this in my DVR.    

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