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Not Just Bloggers, The Class War Is No Longer Invisible

  

by: buhdydharma

Tue Oct 20, 2009 at 11:00:16 PDT


We've spent the last few decades shoveling money at the rich like there was no tomorrow. We abandoned the poor, put an economic stranglehold on the middle class and all but bankrupted the federal government - while giving the banks and megacorporations and the rest of the swells at the top of the economic pyramid just about everything they've wanted.

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Meanwhile, Wall Street is living it up. I'm amazed at how passive the population has remained in the face of this sustained outrage.

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We need to make some fundamental changes in the way we do things in this country. The gamblers and con artists of the financial sector, the very same clowns who did so much to bring the economy down in the first place, are howling self-righteously over the prospect of regulations aimed at curbing the worst aspects of their excessively risky behavior and preventing them from causing yet another economic meltdown.

We should be going even further. We've institutionalized the idea that there are firms that are too big to fail and, therefore, "we, the people" are obliged to see that they don't - even if that means bankrupting the national treasury and undermining the living standards of ordinary people. What sense does that make?

Is it some angry blogger railing against the powers that be?

No, it is one of the NYT's leading columnists. Please read the whole column, if I could reprint it in it's entirety I would.

From the Wall Street Journal...of all places...

The nation's top 1% of households own more than half the nation's stocks, according to the Federal Reserve. They also control more than $16 trillion in wealth - more than the bottom 90%.

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There is no "average" consumer in Plutonomies. There is only the rich "and everyone else." The rich account for a disproportionate chunk of the economy, while the non-rich account for "surprisingly small bites of the national pie." Kapur estimates that in 2005, the richest 20% may have been responsible for 60% of total spending.

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Of course, Kapur says there are risks to the Plutonomy, including war, inflation, financial crises, the end of the technological revolution and populist political pressure. Yet he maintains that the "the rich are likely to keep getting even richer, and enjoy an even greater share of the wealth pie over the coming years."

Of course the WSJ's 'solution' is to.....invest in those who serve the Ruling Class. Because as The Ruling Class gets richer, there is no profit in trying to sell things to those the Ruling Class have already succeeded in impoverishing, as they have no money.
buhdydharma :: Not Just Bloggers, The Class War Is No Longer Invisible
Here is a Natural Law, that in my opinion is right up there with the law of Gravity and Thermodynamics:

If the rich go unchecked, they will always establish an unjust and exploitative Aristocracy.

They will use their power to increase their power. And the only way that they can increase their power and wealth is to ROB that power and wealth from the 99% of the rest of us.

And since Reagan, they have gone unchecked.

For anyone unsure of this fact...and the law that drives it I refer you to Pluto's excellent work...Your Work Life Revealed - A Chart Extravaganza wherein what has happened under an unchecked Ruling Class that owns the government is starkly laid out.

The Ruling Class is Waging War on the Lower and Middle Classes.

Not out of some grand conspiracy or zealous malevolence or plot to make people suffer...but out of pure greed.

I think it is safe to say that "they" just don't know what they are doing, I also think it is safe to say that "they" don't care.

Because they have not been MADE to care.

Perhaps...just perhaps, now that the Class War IS out in the open, and the Health Care and Climate Bills are revealing just how much the Ruling Class and their financial arms in the Insurance, Finance and Energy industries have outright bought our government....

MAYBE now that the number of Americans in the combined unemployment and under employment category has increased to 20% of the population....

Maybe now that a s Herbert points out, two-thirds of all the income gains from the years 2002 to 2007 went to the top 1 percent of Americans....

Maybe now that we know that 1 out of 6 Americans live in REAL poverty while a record percentage of wealth is being transferred, by our own government, (amongst other factors) to the top 1%...

Maybe now that top columnists from the NYT and WSJ are pointing to the Class War and even THEY are saying, in effect....wow!

Maybe now we will start to see a little LESS passivity from the 99% of Americans who are slouching toward dystopia

One thing is for absolute certain, so certain that it is perhaps the othe half of the Natural Law I proposed earlier, to wit:

Unless the The Ruling Class is checked being made to be afraid of the rest of the 99% of humanity, they will just not stop. All that has ever stopped them was the fear that those that they are exploting and now outright robbing will rebel and storm their castles and take BACK the wealth they have used their power to acquire.

Or...perhaps we can use OUR government for one of its main purposes....to ensure some measure of equality for ALL of it's citizens...not just the one percent who have bought OUR government out from under us.

We know what the first alternative looks like, which is why you hear so many references to the french revolution and guillotines these days.

We know what the second alternative looks like from Mr. Roosevelt time in office the last time the Ruling Class crashed the world economy for their own benefit and profit.

Maybe, just maybe, The Ruling Class should decide which of those alternatives it finds more palatable? Before it is too late? While they still have a choice?

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Hmmm, could there be a good reason for passivity? (4.00 / 24)
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Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!

Who are these people? (4.00 / 4)

[ Parent ]
Pittsburgh cops (4.00 / 5)
http://www.philly.com/philly/w...

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!

[ Parent ]
I mean (4.00 / 8)
names.  Do they have mothers, fathers, wives, children.  Are they our neighbors.  Who are they when they are not all dressed up in their killing gear, do they shop, watch football?  Who are they.  An aside, one of them shot my nephew in the back of the head, twice.  The family is not allowed to know his name.  I want to know the cowards name.
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Excellent question/point (4.00 / 2)


Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!

[ Parent ]
OMG, icosa! (4.00 / 1)
So sorry to hear that your nephew was a victim of these "goons."  How dreadful -- how depraved.  Then, they hide so you may not know their identity?  

I just don't know, icosa.  These "goons" have been showing up in the same gear in different places of the world, not just here.  Is this all part of some unspecified New World Order?  The Bilderbergs at work?

I just don't know -- it is a cancer that continues to spread, but, I fear, it is we who "push the first dominoe."

"At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst."--Aristotle

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Police-State Dictaorship (4.00 / 7)



"The illusion of freedom [in America] will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion.

At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."

                   --Frank Zappa






"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold, is for
people of good conscience to remain silent."
    --Thomas Jefferson
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Isn't it weird (4.00 / 3)
how the guys who figure it all out have this weird tendency to die young?

Frank Zappa.  Bill Hicks.  Many others.

"Never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is it's an opportunity to do things you couldn't do before." -- Rahm Emanuel

[ Parent ]
figuring it all out can be hard on the (4.00 / 5)
immune system.  It causes much saddness.
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I love BIll Hicks and George Carlin!! (4.00 / 2)


They were the best Comedian-teachers

And this guy too!

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"I wish people would see through all the sham about war".

     --John Lennon, 1964




"Possession isn't nine-tenths of the law. It's nine-tenths of the problem"

     --John Lennon





"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold, is for
people of good conscience to remain silent."
    --Thomas Jefferson

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Thank you for that, Free Society! (4.00 / 1)


"At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst."--Aristotle
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I figure that after Halloween (4.00 / 1)
I'm going to install our refurbished guillotine (a very expensive prop/magic trick we had to buy 20 years ago, don't use much) as our rural mailbox holder down at the road. Directly across the street from that town park with the 100' geyser. figure the mail-lady will get a kick out of having to stick her hand through the blade-slide to deliver. Or maybe not... §;o)

Will take pix and post them when installation's complete! Between a guillotine at the bottom of the driveway and the ratty pirate flag at the top of the garden when you get here, it should cure some wayward tourist and bear hunter issues, at any rate!

Some are born to weirdness, some attain weirdness and others have weirdness thrust upon them...
- OPOL

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The ruling class.... (4.00 / 16)
Are safely isolated. They don't know the pain and suffering of the unemployed and under employed. They don't care. They read or watch only the media that admire them.

And that is good news for the working class and the soon to disappear middle class.

Use their arrogance against them, I say.

Sadly until American ditch their myths it will be hard to have a successful strike. Americans love their myths. Their myths are their identity. Lose the myths, lose the identity.

We then are forced to face a shocking reality: we are NOT unique.

You forgot to give yourself a rec button.

Bottom line, we cannot Force them to care (4.00 / 10)
about their fellow human beings

But we might be able to force them to notice the growing anger, even through their bubble.

Fear will take care of the rest....eventually.

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!

[ Parent ]
I don't know how (4.00 / 7)
we do it, but we have got to find a way, en masse, to non-compliance.

great job.

g.  

Listen to The Wild Wild Left on internet talk radio


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well what do you guys think, (4.00 / 9)
if you think of it in terms of it being a "populist" movement..., might that not mean that we (theres that word again!!) might need to figure a way, somewhere down the line, to form some sort of unholy alliance with {cough} other folks {ahem} in this Class War who are... on the "same side" as us, i.e. the underside, the receiving end of the Billionaire-Boot, ya know... people like Teh Teabaggers?!?

just wonderin'...

"When you realize how perfect everything is you will tilt your head back and laugh at the sky" Buddha

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Well (4.00 / 9)
At THIS point, I think it is better to have the fire coming from both sides of the spectrum.

Last time this happened Socialists and communists took all the heat....and it led to Red-bating and a convenient scapegoat/explanation.

If it is coming from both sides, they can't blame JUST the DFH's


Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!

[ Parent ]
buhdy, you mentioned (4.00 / 1)
Mr. Roosevelt & I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that you meant FDR.  But Teddy R. was also a trust-buster & in some (perhaps many) ways also stood up against the pirates of the Gilded Age.

I agree with Kos that we need more and better Democrats: but we also need more politicians who have not been bought.

How we attain that goal, when you can't get elected without a huge bankroll, I don't know.

One function of the income gap is that the people at the top of the heap have a hard time even seeing those at the bottom. They practically need a telescope.--Molly Ivins

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That's us... (4.00 / 7)

down there at the bottom, nippin' at their pantlegs.

[ Parent ]
Smart doggie! (4.00 / 6)


Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!

[ Parent ]
Looks a lot like (4.00 / 2)
my dear Starfish the GSD. Or, what she'll look like when she's done getting larger. Mere 50 pounds now. Bets are in, I guessed 70. That's low on the scale of bets, based on the size of her feet and teeth...

Some are born to weirdness, some attain weirdness and others have weirdness thrust upon them...
- OPOL
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Bank robbers are rarely "sorry" they robbed... (4.00 / 3)
...the bank--unless they are apprehended, prosecuted and jailed--then they're mainly sorry they got caught.  There's no way for the average citizen to know how prevalent the criminals in the financial markets are, or how much they succeeded in:

"...(exploiting)the U.S. and international financial system to move illegal profits and funds, including sending billions in illicit funds through the U.S. financial system each year..."

or how extensive their:

"...manipulation of securities exchanges and engaging in sophisticated fraud schemes that rob U.S. investors, consumers and government agencies of billions of dollars..."

...was, but it's probably pretty safe to say that these types of people aren't much concerned about the plight of their victims.  

For every Madoff that's exposed and prosecuted, how many more are robbing savers, investors, consumers, and the US Treasury with impunity? They  continue to come up with new ways to get richer at others' expense like using high speed computers to have an advantage over everyone else in the markets:

My primary theory is that with low enough latency, you could buy a stock causing it to rise, then sell it and secure options as it falls and manage to do all of these trades so quickly that you profit from both the rising price and the falling price. The trick is keeping the trades roughly small enough that no one picks up on your game.

They do indeed know what they are doing and the only regrets they seem to have is that anyone has noticed what they're doing, and they're indignant that anyone dares to question them or seek to regulate them.  

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I think it's safe to assume now that there is obviously now (4.00 / 9)
not just a class war, but also a war between at least two or more elite ruling class factions developing (one or more of which is opposed to wealth concentration at least to the degree we've been seeing), or Bob Herbert's article and the WSJ article would never have been published.

So this is good news, sort of...

OR (4.00 / 7)
they are all in it together and these are bs articles designed to give the peasants hope that there is a war between at least two or more elite ruling class factions, and keep them from rioting and burning down the castles.
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Edger, I don't know (4.00 / 1)
about the WSJ -- all bets are off in that regard -- but I've been reading Herbert since he was at the NY Daily News, and believe he is totally sincere.

One function of the income gap is that the people at the top of the heap have a hard time even seeing those at the bottom. They practically need a telescope.--Molly Ivins
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I think you are right (4.00 / 3)
they are warring with each other. Greed, pure and simple, how many cut each other throats daily to enrich their portfolios. Look at Madoff, he got his 'closest' friends, all for the dollar and his fabulous lifestyle.
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I think they are not all stupid, too (4.00 / 5)
And there must be many who see the obvious, that it's unsustainable for their companies for them to bankrupt the source of their revenues. They need a financially healthy "consumer class" with secure jobs, or they go down too, in the long run.
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The only (4.00 / 3)
sister-in-law I had, cheated on my brother, stole company secrets and is now the 347the richest woman in America..that is how it is done :)
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ruling class is very unsettled right now (4.00 / 4)
this is a perfect time for the left to assert itself and create liberated areas both in real estate and in cyberspace. Today DD tomorrow DKOS.
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What's the matter buhdydharma? (4.00 / 8)
Are ya crabby that wealth from the upper class ain't tricklin' down on to ya?

Maybe you should try sellin' dinner with yourself on eBay -- that's a quick way to make $63,500.

Or get somebody to write your autobiography for $11,000,000.  Harper-Collins will fall for that one, trust me!

If ya can't beat 'em . . . join 'em!  That's my new motto.  It used to be "Drill, baby, drill" before I won the battle with tree-huggers with logic like this:

Those who oppose domestic drilling are motivated primarily by environmental considerations, but many of the countries we're forced to import from have few if any environmental-protection laws, and those that do exist often go unenforced. In effect, American environmentalists are preventing responsible development here at home while supporting irresponsible development overseas.

That kind of superior logic there can be applied to wealth also.  Wealth needs to remain with people who are used to havin' it.  Spreadin' it around to people that need it would upset our economy too much.  What would happen to our patriotic yacht manufacturers?  

heh! (4.00 / 7)
How's that job search goin'?

Wink!

But yeah, your analogy is sound...

Both lead to a big nasty mess!

That aside, let me just say that a day without  Caribou Barbie is like a day without ....Anita Bryant!


Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!

[ Parent ]
Thanks for your concern . . . (4.00 / 6)
. . . but for now I'm gettin' by on my $11,063,500.

I miss Anita Bryant too.  Kinda makes me thirsty for some good, wholesome, heterosexual orange juice.

[ Parent ]
FYI (4.00 / 8)
Oranges are....fruits

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!

[ Parent ]
But Jesus could convert (4.00 / 6)
those fruits. You just gotta believe. And want to become a vegetable!
[ Parent ]
Artichoke? (4.00 / 2)


Some are born to weirdness, some attain weirdness and others have weirdness thrust upon them...
- OPOL
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Nah: that's a FLOWER (4.00 / 2)
(well, globe artichokes are, anyway).

One function of the income gap is that the people at the top of the heap have a hard time even seeing those at the bottom. They practically need a telescope.--Molly Ivins
[ Parent ]
Hell. (4.00 / 3)
I'd write my OWN autobiography for a mere $10 million!

Some are born to weirdness, some attain weirdness and others have weirdness thrust upon them...
- OPOL
[ Parent ]
Hey, Barbie! (4.00 / 3)
Missed seein' ya 'round these parts.  Great readin' ya again, also.

One function of the income gap is that the people at the top of the heap have a hard time even seeing those at the bottom. They practically need a telescope.--Molly Ivins
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Also back at ya! (0.00 / 0)

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People are angry (4.00 / 5)
I hear from many people, those I least expect, that they are so truly disgusted.  The rich have overplayed this card.  
Really? From what walks of life? If I may pry. (4.00 / 2)
See, I'm looking for some hope, here.

"This health care system is a moral atrocity." Dr. RalphDog (on blog)
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Strangers (4.00 / 3)
People I don't even know.  Say something and then wow, the words start coming.  Interestingly, people that I have talked to don't even 'look' like they would be interested in politics.  I am often just blown away by them.  On the other hand, many in my immediate family are those that think denial is a river in Egypt.  That part is frustrating but I believe everyone is on their own timetable.  I believe everyone has a button/bottom that will be the one that finally hits so hard that they have to look....but I have been wrong hundreds of times.  I am just a freak in my family..lol.
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I do worry that if we ever win (4.00 / 6)
the class war we will end up with a lot of bad fashion and hairstyles.

On the other hand we did have the 1980's for that already.

Whew (4.00 / 2)


Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!

[ Parent ]
Come on I am a limosine progressive (4.00 / 3)
I want cute shoes with my revolt. And hot looking brooding dark haired tormented yet authentic and sincere men talking important shit and being soulful. Plug in female version.... here.

Isn't the revolution supposed to be fun? Sorry, I turned freedom for the masses into a bodice ripper novel but you know that is how I roll.

[ Parent ]
I'm with you there (4.00 / 1)
only I'm for the  hot similarly brooding women -- hey, I've been hanging out with one recently who laughs a lot.
[ Parent ]
And the 70's. OMG. (4.00 / 1)


"This health care system is a moral atrocity." Dr. RalphDog (on blog)
[ Parent ]
Weren't '70s fashions (0.00 / 0)
the worst?

One function of the income gap is that the people at the top of the heap have a hard time even seeing those at the bottom. They practically need a telescope.--Molly Ivins
[ Parent ]
So long as we can dance. (4.00 / 1)
A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having...



Some are born to weirdness, some attain weirdness and others have weirdness thrust upon them...
- OPOL

[ Parent ]
anyone got a can of gas and a match....... (4.00 / 5)

We are the cans of gas (4.00 / 4)
The matches are, among other places, here, here, here and here.

But good Americans don't play with matches.

"We who have been nothing shall be all.  This is the final struggle."  ~E. Pottier

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This from my favorite new book (4.00 / 5)
First as Tragedy, Then as Farce, by Slavoj Zizek:

In order to cope with these threats, the dominant ideology is mobilizing mechanisms of dissimulation and self-deception which include a will to ignorance.  A general pattern of behavior among threatened human societies is to become more blinkered, rather than more focused on the crisis, as they fail.  The same goes for the ongoing economic crisis:  in late Spring 2009 it was successfully "normalized"--the panic blew over, the situation was proclaimed as "getting better", or at least the damage as having been controlled (the price paid for this "recovery" in the Third World countries was, of course, rarely mentioned)--thereby constituting an ominous warning that the true message of the crisis had been ignored, and we could relax once again and continue our long march towards the apocalypse.

and this:

[A] new emancipatory politics will stem no longer from a particular social agent, but from an explosive combination of different agents.  What unites us is that, in contrast to the classic image of the proletariat who have "nothing to lose but their chains," we are in danger of losing everything: the threat is that we will be reduced to abstract subjects devoid of all substantial content, dispossessed of our symbolic substance, our genetic base heavily manipulated, vegetating in an unlivable environment.


"We who have been nothing shall be all.  This is the final struggle."  ~E. Pottier
beautiful quotes (4.00 / 6)
The stakes are very high indeed. This is not like any other struggle it is a struggle for the soul we are in danger of losing everything. We could not have invented a more obvious cartoon evil to battle -- it's all there -- we've waiter our whole lives for this struggle so why do we hesitate? We need to discuss this -- what is holding us back. A committed group of a few thousand would sweep the country in my view since nobody has any spine or any guts -- the minute people with some substance show up on the public stage everything will change.
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beautiful quotes (0.00 / 0)
The stakes are very high indeed. This is not like any other struggle it is a struggle for the soul we are in danger of losing everything. We could not have invented a more obvious cartoon evil to battle -- it's all there -- we've waiter our whole lives for this struggle so why do we hesitate? We need to discuss this -- what is holding us back. A committed group of a few thousand would sweep the country in my view since nobody has any spine or any guts -- the minute people with some substance show up on the public stage everything will change.
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Yes, as we are now in a "recovery" (4.00 / 6)
and everything is couched in terms of how it affects "the recovery".

Oh, and this "recovery" seems to be "jobless".   So if you can't find a job, well, you're PART OF "the recovery".

You're helping if you're unemployed.  You're part of the Big Picture.

Black is white, up is down, war is peace, the police state is all about protecting your freedom.

"Never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is it's an opportunity to do things you couldn't do before." -- Rahm Emanuel

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The key phrase is... (4.00 / 5)
I'm amazed at how passive the population has remained in the face of this sustained outrage.

That is the key to understanding our situation and suggests the tactics and strategies to use to get a movement going. The police state bullshit is a minor issue. The police merely are blocking massive street actions announced way in advance.

People are stunned and in a stupor. They merely need to be woken up -- they are ready. But they need a catalyst of strong, sexy, stylish (thanks undercovercalico) and committed people to stand up straight and organize communities that cannot and will not be cracked by undercover pigs (I vote to return the old word at this point in history).

It won't take much. This country can be changed by a few thousand activists who understand what struggle and power are about and are willing to utterly risk everything. As I indicated elsewhere in this discussion -- even members of the ruling elites are looking for something new.

I've been discouraged for a long time but I see an opening as I read the propaganda organs and observe the signs (semiotics).

Thanks for calling it class struggle rather than interest group politics. We need a Marxist perspective in this country -- you can't understand our system without starting with Marx and (more importantly) Marxism. I think we live in a post-Marxist world but he pointed in the right direction.

Ain't gonna happen (4.00 / 3)
Even the people with jobs can't afford their lives right now.  They're drowning in debt.   Most people don't have a "strike fund" set aside.

Most people aren't self sufficient.  If they lose their job, or go on strike, they lose everything.

There will be no general strike in this country.  It's just not gonna happen.

The Unemployed is where the power is at.  It's the people with nothing to lose who have the most power.  

Which is why they don't want the collapse to go TOO far.  When too many people don't have jobs, that's when things get dangerous.


"Never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is it's an opportunity to do things you couldn't do before." -- Rahm Emanuel

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What percentage do you think it is? (4.00 / 2)
20 percent seems pretty dangerous to me.

"This health care system is a moral atrocity." Dr. RalphDog (on blog)
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Absolutely (4.00 / 1)
people with nothing left to loose.  When that point is reached people can do incredible things, like get in touch with their power.  I have been there emotionally, tho I still had a job.  My emotional bottom was the cause of me finding myself and my power.
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My daughter-in-law... (4.00 / 1)
...finalized her bankruptcy today. Don't know yet if she can keep the house. Her hubby has been out of work for more than 6 months, nothing on the horizon. #2 Grandson (our son died when he was 2) taking only two classes, not sure he can finish those because he must find work at home if he can. We can't pick up the slack, #1 grandson is out of school (can't afford it) and looking for work (they're both 19, won't/can't join the service because we will complain loudly). Daughter and I are still unemployed, and our truck blew its engine last week. Looking for things to sell to get some kind of vehicle.

I wonder if the rich are truly cognizant of the fact that the shotgun's the LAST thing on our list of hock-ables?

Some are born to weirdness, some attain weirdness and others have weirdness thrust upon them...
- OPOL

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I am so sorry Joy (4.00 / 1)
My sons are going thru these things too.  I foresee the day when circumstances are going to force families to live together again.  My sons are in denial though.  They truly believe things are going to get better and mom is just a wacko.  I have been yelling about all this coming down since the mid eighties.  I am just a broken record to them. I don't know how to get them to see that their world will never be the same again.  Things are going to be worse.  

To have a foot in each world/paradigm is a challange.  Trying to be positive but seeing the world being destroyed is a bitch. Right now I think that owning weapons is our only protection, our last Right that has not been stolen.  The rich have their private armies and underground compounds, think Walton family.  This is why I want to know who those people are that brutalize us with POLICE written across their chests.  I could be living next door to the cop that killed my nephew, that would be some big irony.

I don't want anyone to move from the foreclosed houses.  Let them foreclose, so what.  My career was in the mortgage business, when it was honest..really, there was a time when people cared about people, I know my company did. Now, not so much, I watched the change, the greed.  I got out because I wouldn't lie.

Best wishes Joy, I always enjoy and learn from your sharing. I believe you are a powerful woman just from reading your comments.  

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Thanks, icosa. (4.00 / 1)
Already have daughter and #1 grandson living here, but have informed #2 and his family they're most welcome to build on the ridge whenever they're ready to ditch South Florida for the highlands. It may come to that, we won't mind. With ~26 acres to play with, there's room. Besides, I could use help in the garden! But they've their own lives and plans, I can hope they work out because I sure can't help finance 'em!

I'm hoping they can keep the house. Or stay in it even if it is foreclosed. These days of CDS wackiness, nobody seems to be able to find the paper, and without the paper nobody can legally foreclose. I'd love to see a lot of struggling families get their homes free out of the deal. God knows the rich got theirs!

Some are born to weirdness, some attain weirdness and others have weirdness thrust upon them...
- OPOL

[ Parent ]
You are so fortunate (0.00 / 0)
to have all that land.  Some people in my area are buying old, small motorhomes and putting them on their land, then renting them cheap to people that need a roof.  I think that is what is going happen as this depression gets worse.

I am having quite a time trying to get my adult children to understand that things are not going to get better.  We are all in survival mode now.  Both my sons have the skills to survive and that is so important now.  All those backpacking trips they did for fun, that knowledge will help them in the coming days and they don't even know it, but I do.

[ Parent ]
This just made my blood sing (4.00 / 1)
This country can be changed by a few thousand activists who understand what struggle and power are about and are willing to utterly risk everything.

I mean, a response like, "Yeah, he's right, where do I sign up?"

And then, "Oh, wait, maybe someone else is already on this."

But seriously, that anyone's even thinking on that scale is important to me.

"This health care system is a moral atrocity." Dr. RalphDog (on blog)

[ Parent ]
Well, you could credit the man, Bob Herbert, who wrote the top (4.00 / 4)
piece.

And thanks for pointing us to it. It's stunning. Beyond excellent.

"This health care system is a moral atrocity." Dr. RalphDog (on blog)

Oops, that looks rude. It didn't sound that way in my head (4.00 / 4)
before I typed it. I just think it's a kind thing to do, when a person has stepped out on a limb, and written something really incredible -- to credit them by name.

"This health care system is a moral atrocity." Dr. RalphDog (on blog)
[ Parent ]
I actually think it makes more people click the link, lol (4.00 / 2)
to see who i am talking about!

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!

[ Parent ]
Bob Herbert (0.00 / 0)
used to be a columnist at the NY Daily News.  SO glad he's at the Times now.  But he's been awesome for as long as I've been reading him.

One function of the income gap is that the people at the top of the heap have a hard time even seeing those at the bottom. They practically need a telescope.--Molly Ivins
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PS (4.00 / 1)
I loved this:

That money is never going to trickle down. It's a fairy tale. We're crazy to continue believing it.

Reminiscent of RayGun, much?

One function of the income gap is that the people at the top of the heap have a hard time even seeing those at the bottom. They practically need a telescope.--Molly Ivins

[ Parent ]
This is good, buhdy! (4.00 / 2)
I would like to say more right now, but let it suffice that David Swanson, a non-stop activist individual, has this to say about what we can and should do:  Your Town Can Demand Justice More Powerfully Than You Can.

Very much worth reading!  



"At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst."--Aristotle

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