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by: NLinStPaul

Sun Apr 19, 2009 at 08:00:46 PDT        
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Its been pretty clear to me for awhile now that I seem to be looking at the world through a different lens than many who blog here these days. I've been taking some time to think and reflect about that these last couple of weeks and have been helped in that process tremendously by a couple of diaries NCrissieB wrote at dkos titled Religion as Politics, Politics as Religion and Religion, Politics and Big Narratives. In these, she describes our tendency to create Big Narratives that provide "global, unifying lenses through which to view the events in our lives." But here's the problem:

...we meet difficulty when Big Narratives collide.  When two people or groups are constructing experience through different narratives, it seems as if they inhabit different worlds.  Each can easily think the other out of touch with reality, when the problem is that each is out of touch with the others' narrative.  They've gone through life writing different stories, along different patterns, in part from events unique to their own experiences.  Even where the stories are "based on" common events, they are different stories, each with its own heroes, villains, victims, motivations, strategies, and resolutions. And while each offers a sense of completeness, none is truly complete.

One of the ways to explain both my experience as well as much of the discord we've seen at dkos and other blogs is that we're having a clash of Big Narratives - none of which is complete. Of course there are other reasons why communication is difficult. But I think this is a big one.

So the question becomes, do we replicate so much of what happens with political discourse in this country and splinter off into groups of people who share a common Big Narrative? Or is it possible to discuss these differences in the hopes of either expanding our own narrative or at least limiting the derision of those who see things differently?

I thought I'd share some of the things my Big Narrative has led me to think about over this past week - things that look very different from what I've seen written about here - in hopes that you'll see it as my incomplete narrative in progress.

NLinStPaul :: Another narrative
Over a year ago, I wrote about my tendency to be the "hare" in the Tortoise and the Hare fable. Growing up with a father who always had "bigger than life" dreams but never found a way to make any of them come true, I must have learned early on that it pays to think about the process of implementation. I have very big dreams for our country and the world - that's because I also grew up with the privilege of that kind of optimism. But as soon as I articulate a dream, I begin to think about step one in what might actually be doable to make those dreams come true. Its often a small step that I can see leading the way to step two...and on that path to eventually reach the goal.

I think this is one of the reasons I so identify with what Obama is doing. From his book, Dreams from My Father, it seems that he learned the same lesson from his father.  Obama often compares the kind of change he's working on to turning around a big ship...its not going to happen overnight. But slowly, one small step at a time, you eventually right a wrong course.

I know there is a good argument for the idea that we don't have the time for this kind of slow course correction. But I also see that Obama is aware of the potential failure - the kind we both saw in our fathers - of trying to do too much too fast without plotting the course for success. I think this is a HUGE tension between two narratives that needs to be recognized, acknowledged, and discussed.

Just yesterday, we began to see Obama's step-by-step course correction begin to bear fruit in our relationship with the countries of Latin America - particularly as it relates to Cuba. He did a small thing - opened the door to travel and money exchanges for Cubans living in the United States. That led to a momentous response from Raul Castro and we're off to the races on the possibility of ending a failed strategy that has lasted over 50 years.

We also heard some words from Obama yesterday that signaled a real change in how our relationships with Latin America will go forward after decades of U.S. hegemony.

All of us must now renew the common stake that we have in one another. I know that promises of partnership have gone unfulfilled in the past, and that trust has to be earned over time. While the United States has done much to promote peace and prosperity in the hemisphere, we have at times been disengaged, and at times we sought to dictate our terms. But I pledge to you that we seek an equal partnership. There is no senior partner and junior partner in our relations; there is simply engagement based on mutual respect and common interests and shared values. So I'm here to launch a new chapter of engagement that will be sustained throughout my administration.

These statements are particularly powerful in light of our current discussions about the U.S. and torture. The people of Latin America are very well aware of the fact that the Bush administration is not the first to engage in such practices. Greg Grandin connects the dots for us in an article titled America's trinity of terrorism.

Throughout the second half of the Cold War, Washington's anti-communist allies killed more than 300,000 civilians, many of whom were simply desaparecido -- "disappeared"...

The victims were often not the most politically active, but the most popular, and were generally chosen to ensure that their sudden absence would generate a chilling ripple effect.

Like rendition, disappearances can't be carried out without a synchronized, sophisticated and increasingly transnational infrastructure, which, back in the 1960s and 1970s, the United States was instrumental in creating. In fact, it was in Latin America that the CIA and U.S. military intelligence agents, working closely with local allies, first helped put into place the unholy trinity of government-sponsored terrorism now on display in Iraq and elsewhere: death squads, disappearances and torture.

These kinds of things have been going on in our intelligence communities for decades now under the administrations of everyone from at least Kennedy to Bush. For example, as much as I admire and respect Jimmy Carter, his involvement with atrocities in places like East Timor and El Salvador would at least indicate complicity, if not direct involvement, in war crimes. And who was ever prosecuted for the war crimes we commited in Viet Nam? I even have trouble with the term "war crimes." Isn't war, by its very nature, most often a crime? As if we could mitigate the murder and destruction by developing rules and regulations for how it is to be done.

This is why, for me, calls for investigation and prosecution of torture would need to include every administration in which it was practiced in order to meet the litmus test of "restoring the rule of law." We have, perhaps since our founding as a nation, committed crimes against our citizens and those of the world when it comes to death squads, disappearances and torture.  As just one example, I am reminded of the powerful story of Sister Dianna Ortiz who was abducted and tortured in Guatemala in 1989.

MARGARET MONTOYA: Who else was in the room while you were being tortured, besides the Guatemalan torturers?

SISTER DIANNA ORTIZ: After a while, there was-an American walked in.

...

MARGARET MONTOYA: Do you remember what was said?

SISTER DIANNA ORTIZ: Yes. It was evident that he was upset. He ordered the men to stop the torture, telling them that I was a North American nun, and that my disappearance had become public, and it was because-my disappearance was beginning to cause an uproar.

MARGARET MONTOYA: And how did they respond?

SISTER DIANNA ORTIZ: They followed his orders, and they didn't rape me again, and they left the room. I asked him if he was an American, and his answer was evasive. "Why do you want to know?" he asked me. I told him that he had used a word that was common in the United States. He, Alejandro, tried to help me put my clothes back on and eventually led me out of the building.

MARGARET MONTOYA: And then what happened?

SISTER DIANNA ORTIZ: The American, Alejandro, put me into his jeep and drove off, and during the ride he told me to forgive my torturers, telling me that they were all just trying to fight communism; if I didn't, that there would be consequences. He reminded me that my torturers had made videotapes and had taken photographs of the part of the torture that I was most ashamed of. In perfect American English, Alejandro told me that if I didn't forgive my torturers, he would have no other choice than to release the videotapes and the photos to the press.

Are Sister Ortiz or any of the other thousands of victims in Latin America who experienced rendition and torture at the hands of U.S. intelligence any less deserving of "justice" than those who are victims of the Bush administration's practices? I think not. The history of this country (like most) has been paved with crimes and horrors committed against those we define as our "enemies." I'm not sure what "justice" means when put into that larger context. But as I've written before, I don't think our current justice system is capable of addressing the breadth of what we've done. It is, afterall, a system that has been set up primarily to protect the powerful and punish the those who threaten that power...the very thing that needs to be changed.

So I'm seriously asking myself questions about all of that.

In the meantime, I'll just keep watching as Obama slowly but surely takes the small effective steps that I think are necessary to change this awful course we've been on for a very long time. Like this one...


(Too bad they didn't do a fist bump. Wouldn't that have made the winger's heads explode?)

Yesterday, at the Summit of the Americas in Trinidad, the US president extended a long overdue hand of friendship to his Venezuelan counterpart, a democratically elected leader that suffered an attempted military coup d'etat that was cheered, if not planned, by Washington. The President, in short time, has already defused an entire string of similar policy time bombs left by previous administrations (Republican and Democratic alike). Will there be more tensions between Chávez and the US? Very likely the answer is yes, but the gravity and context of them has shifted positively. This hemisphere is already a safer place for dissident journalists, community organizers, governments of the left and other grassroots change agents. That, alone, makes it more possible for us to organize and make bigger and better changes - of the kind for which we do not need any government's permission - in the days and years ahead.
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Another narrative | 28 comments
Sorry this one got so long. (4.00 / 6)
But one more thing...another part of my Big Narrative is that there is value in discussing where Big Narratives collide.

So now its your turn.

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


Not an answer but an analogous framework to pursue (4.00 / 4)
Aldus Huxley wrote a book titled The Perennial Philosophy. He uses much of if an in introduction to The Bhagavad Gita translation by Swami Prabhavananda and Christopher Isherwood. (my favorite translation.) In this philosophy, he strips off the cultural overlays and dogmatic differeces between the world's religions and comes to an underlying philosophy that inform each of those religions. He names this the perennial philosophy. Call it a holisitic approach to spirituality as it manifest itself in various religions.

Obama seems to be taking the same tack wrt political systems amd cultural overlays by his seeking the commonality that runs throughout humanity. This is a very encouraging sign of a somewhat enlightened leadership. (I'm having major cognitive dissonance with the NSA, FISA  and no war crimes prosecutions - yet.)

From my perspective, your Big Narratives are blends of dogma and cultural overlays that warp the viewing and feeling of any particular event to fit the belief system of the individual and group-think. All of our lenses are warped by personal expectations and a search for positive feedback that fits the narratives we choose.

I like to use my home-grown theory of looking at humans as God-conscious social mammals. It helps as a viewpoint from which to observe our group mentality. We do tend to herd. From the tribe and clans to nation-states and alliances we all have and us and them mentality. Big Narratives pervade our global culture in myriad ways. We define ourselves by our group affiliations - it's an ego artifact.

For instance, I'm a Deadhead-surfer-New England-Red Sox-progessive-libertarian-neo Buddhist Celtic neo-pagan organic farmer computer scientist. And that's the tip of the iceberg. I am an intersection of a vast variety of planes of human experience that is always changing and evolving.

I don't need a Big Narrative as a crutch or a twelve-foot cyclone fence topped by three coils of razor wire. Many people do tend to flock to  the ones that best reaffirm their belief system and the righteousness of their way of life.

I think the reason our history sees my town and it's pathetic rock as the beginning of America is that the Pilgrims came here to be themselves. The Jamestown settlement was pure capitalism and economic opportunity. It didn't fully resonate with our City on the Hill Grand Narrative where we see ourselves through a lens of American Exceptionalism.

We'll matute as a nation when we get over ourselves. In the meantime, Grand Narratives will shape major human events and reinforce our tribalism.

Gotta go. Got my Dead reinforcement last night at Worcester and going for another tonight. As an aside, after the show I'm letting the crowd pass by and I hear a NY person talking about the Sox-Yankees series coming up as "crucial". Dude, says I to myself, get a life. The lettuce seeds aren't in the ground yet and you're talking crucial series?

Second aside, and this one is pertinent to the conversation. At the break I'm behind the stage checking out Mickey's latest drum set. An usher, another guy and me - all 60ish - nd the usher says, "Well I guess we'll see if the Deadheads can out drink the Alabama crowd. They came through here last week and drained the place of every drop of liquor before the show a third over. We had to bring in two whole trucks during the show." The guy between us says,"I don't think you'll see that happen with this crowd." And from out of nowhere in particular I say,"no he's right. It's different fuels for different fools." Which got me an h/t from the fellow Deadhead.

I spent some time thinking about during the show. Different fuels for different fools can stretch universally. If your narrative of choice informs and fuels your self/world view then you'd best be open-minded and honest enough to look through the other person's lenses and get their perspective.

Like Mahatma said, "Be the change you want to see."


"Three things cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the Truth." Buddha


[ Parent ]
A big focus on 'Victory' ... (4.00 / 4)
... can distract attention from the fact that a 'Victory' against the fascists at the gates of the city, and the reduced threat of widespread destruction, pillage and etc. that would go with failing to win that fight ...

... is not the same as winning the war.

As far as establishing a progressive coalition able to win those political victories that we so desperately need to win, 2008 was not the end, the beginning of the end, or even the end of the beginning.

It was the beginning of the end of a period of reactionary rule, and an opportunity to shift from organizing to try to hold back back the forces of reaction toward organizing for progress.

The fact that a hedge fund Democrat is not rushing to split up the "too big too fail banks" into the "operations that we need" part and the "operations that its OK if it fails" part, leaving Wall Street with ownership of the second and the headache of sorting through all the consequences of the reckless excess of the 90's and Naughties ...

... is like, "I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that there is gambling going on in my casino".

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And it remains true that its better to be ... (4.00 / 4)
... fighting a Hedge Fund Democrat than an Oil Patch Reactionary Republican, as evidenced by the support of the Obama administration for SUPERTRAIN.

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I'm not particularly fond (4.00 / 4)
of war metaphors - I think they just reinforce the Big Narrative that has led to so many of our problems.

But I do agree very much with the process I hear you describing. The "small steps" I describe would reinforce that I don't see "the end" anywhere near.

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


[ Parent ]
Oh, I think a war metaphor is apt for the Bush Residency ... (4.00 / 3)
... I view it as a brutal assault on representative democracy.

But its good to shift out of the war metaphor when thinking about the process of building a progressive movement out of the raw material presently at hand.

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the problem is scale....... (4.00 / 3)
historical injustice and trauma effect human cultures and leave scars......

more than half of the people who have ever lived live today and are traumatizing each other......

the generational memory of so many traumas,genocides,etc. have no place to go...

no room temporaly to heal.....

this is getting worse........

we are crossing a threshold which in the past only got crossed regionaly, now we are entering a time in which the truely global and historically unremiting character of this is becoming unstopable,unsolveable....

it is truely getting away from humanity.....

I believe we are witnessing the the total dehumanization of the human species.......

the gradualism of the past is profoundly dangerous in the face of the shear momentum of the present......

during each of these surges in the dehumanization of the past there were exponentially growing numbers of human beings invovled.....

we have extended this to all of life and we are out of time....

I personally no longer believe we can stop it......

but I understand the extreme urgency and extreme feeligs this brings up.......

for me we lost control in the sixties when we would not take strong and decisive action while there was still around two billion human beings.....

I do not think that there is anything more important than a global truth commission......

a global redress for 7 thousand years of human barbarity....

without it I do not believe we will survive....

and I do not believe we can get there because we are still doing it and trying to move on.....


Ahhhh... (4.00 / 3)
a global truth commission to redress 7 thousand years of human barbarity...

Now there's a big dream I could sink my teeth into!!!!

I suppose many will call me naive. But as I've watched Obama on these last 2 trips overseas - I see him inspire and challenge everyone from heads of state to students in Turkey - and I see a change in the "global narrative" just at the potential stage of beginning.

He summed it up pretty well for me in those statements I quoted of his from the Summit of the Americas...equal partmership...common stake in one another...engagement...mutual repsect...common interests...shared values.

Silly me and my dreams, huh?

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


[ Parent ]
I love the character of the dreams your soul holds dear.......... (4.00 / 3)
I am just too old and worn out to hope for dreams anymore.....

and life for me has the growing charcter of a nightmare writ large......

I do not believe that folks truely appreciate the consequences of scale........

in truth scale is everything within the force structure of arising reality........

back in the 50's or 60's there abouts we crossed a critical threshold in scale ........

when we did not do anything about it except deny it we began digging our own graves along with the graves of future generations......

but I am an old crank.....

so what I believe matters not......

but dream of justice NL and fight for it hard.......

fight with everything you got ....

because the yet to be born are counting on us......


[ Parent ]
I guess I'm more focused on home. (4.00 / 4)
That's nice that he made inroads to Latin America, Europe, and BFE; but like Daddy Bush, I frankly think he needs to be focused on the people who pay him everyday Americans. After eight years of Baby Bush and 30 years of Reagan (including Clinton), our country is financially and morally bankrupt and corrupt.  

People are losing jobs and homes, and I don't really care much about anything else.  I will not celebrate a meeting with Chavez or the G20 while we have massive amounts of Americans without health care, jobs and homes.  We have no moral compass left in this country because we protect the ruling elite from justice in the courts and in the free markets, while we throw working Americans under the bus.  Until we can look inside and find once ounce of integrity towards our own, I really don't care what the rest of the world thinks of or needs from us.   There is no way I will ever be grateful to Obama because he peed in the big boy pot.


I decided to focus (4.00 / 3)
on foreign policy in this particular essay because that is what so much of the conversation has been about here lately and tapped in so closely with what is happening this week at the Summit. But this essay was already 1,500 words and talking about domestic policy would have easily doubled that. As I see it - President Obama is taking it all on - as any President must. While we can focus in on the issues that are important to us.

In my Big Narrative though, I see him doing the same thing on domestic policy that he is with foreign policy...small steps (although the stimulus package was HUGE!!!) and an aversion to naming almost anyone as a "permanent enemy" in attempts to solve problems. That last one is a strategy that I'm sure will be debated for years to come. But the man is pretty consistent in its application.

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


[ Parent ]
I would agree about consistent. (4.00 / 4)
However, I see him as consistently wrong. In that I include torture and the wars.  In addition to Iraq and Afghanistan, he now wants to go fight pirates in Somalia and drug dealers in Mexico.  I wish he had as much gumption to fight corruption in the US.  

The stimulus - pfft.  It wasn't big enough, and it is a farce.  While Haliburton steals the country blind in Iraq and Afghanistan, Obama is pouring money into OIG and OMB to crawl all over the stimulus money.  While Obama refuses to regulate Wall Street, he is spending tons of stimulus dollars to make sure some poor Joe Smoe doesn't get any job training money he's not entitled to by god!  


[ Parent ]
Yep, really different narratives (4.00 / 3)
you and I. And I admire your drive while I disagree with almost everything you said. I also love the fact that you came into this essay to talk to me about it.

So we should have some fun in the coming months blogging together, huh? I'm up for it and I hope you are too. Hopefully we can learn from each other.

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


[ Parent ]
I promise to try. n.t (4.00 / 2)


[ Parent ]
Two questions (4.00 / 3)
What do you see as the other big narrative?

And...

This is why, for me, calls for investigation and prosecution of torture would need to include every administration in which it was practiced in order to meet the litmus test of "restoring the rule of law."

How does the ship turn if you never move the wheel?

Iow, where do we start, if not here? If not now, when the issue is 'hot,' then when? If we don't use this lever to turn the rusty, stuck wheel, won't it just be harder to ever turn it?

How can we hope to address the past if we refuse to address the present? How can we restore the rule of law if we ignore it?


Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!


I don't see (4.00 / 3)
just one other Big Narrative. I think that, in fact, we each have our own and many of them overlap with others enough to give us a sense of commonality. Its why I haven't been able to jump into so many of the conversations over at dkos where just two sides are battling it out. So often I see it "my own" way, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of room for that kind of nuance.

Your second question seems to me to be primarily based on your narrative. I'm not going to try and define that - but from my point of view, what I describe Obama doing is, in fact, moving the wheel. As an example, those words in the last blockquote point out that the hemisphere is safer for dissidents as a result of what he's doing.

To go back to your first question - one of the ways my narrative seems to be clashing is with the one that says our justice system is the only way to restore the rule of law. I'm not even sure what that last phrase means, since it implies a "restoration" of something I'm not sure has ever been there.

But where my questions continue to lie are in the idea of what justice means after decades (or even centuries) of what I think are crimes against humanity. I don't have an answer for that one. But I'm at least celebrating the fact that we might be on the road to stopping it.  

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


[ Parent ]
I am unable to reply at this time without some bitterness (4.00 / 5)
So feel free to ignore this.

Rahm Emanuel has just said there will be no prosecutions, of anyone, for torture.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/pl...

So yeah, nuance is tough for my narrative under these circumstances.

I guess we do have a new definition of what justice means, now. I will try to find the appropriate nuance to address a world where torturing people to death is not a crime. But I hope you will excuse me if I don't celebrate, at this moment?

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!


[ Parent ]
I never expect to agree with (4.00 / 2)
anybody on everything.

I only have a few areas where I disagree with our Pres.  

Some of his handling on the economy, and I'll give him a pass there because its such a complicated thing and hopefully he has a few plans as backup.

I cannot give him a pass on torture.  There must be prosecutions.  Doesn't matter if its been going on forever.  I don't think the public was as informed in past years.  We know now and it must be prosecuted to stop it from ever happening again here in our name.  If its not, we are complicit.  Murders been going on forever too, but when you catch a murderer you prosecute.

Oh and everything theevolutionarysieve said.


I guess I disagree (4.00 / 1)
with the part about the public not being informed. We didn't have the internet in the past (perhaps BIG difference!), but the Winter Soldier Investigations happened in 1971 and here's a bit from wiki about them:

On Monday, April 5, 1971, Senator Mark Hatfield of Oregon addressed the WSI allegation made in Detroit that war crimes were the result of military policy and racism was widespread in the armed forces. Hatfield noted that some of these allegations, specifically of war crimes, would place the United States in violation of the Geneva Convention and international laws of war.

Senator Hatfield made several recommendations. He asked that a transcript of the Winter Soldier Investigation be read into the Congressional record and made available to the public. Hatfield also asked congress to hold hearings discussing the use of military force in Vietnam and their relation to international agreements our country has ratified. He sent the testimony to the Department of Defense, the Department of State asked Marine Commandant, Leonard F. Chapman, Jr., to investigate the allegations. He recommended consideration be given to forming a special commission that would look into these issues and provide a forum to determine the moral consequences of American involvement in Vietnam.

Interesting...Hatfield was a Republican (one of my heroes back then) and took HUGE grief for this position!

And much of what we did in Latin America became public during the Clinton presidency. But I don't remember calls for prosecutions - except a little about Kissinger.

As tes said, I would also LOVE some kind of open airing of all the ways we've been guilty of this kind of thing. For me, its about so much more than one evil administration. This country has an addiction to exceptionalism and violence.  And until we change that, these things will continue - no matter which individuals are prosecuted.

I think Obama is addressing that kind of change.  

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


[ Parent ]
More than no internet, (4.00 / 1)
no news channels or C-SPAN.  Quite different back then.  At least they did cover more of what was happening in the war in news papers and nightly news, but the whole culture back then was different.  Not as many women were paying attention to things.  The men read the newspapers while the women took care of the kids.

Its like letting murderers free because others haven't been charged.  Its also hypocricy.  We expect the other countries to be prosecuted when we catch them, but not our own?


[ Parent ]
I guess I'm not sure (4.00 / 1)
who we're "letting free." Almost half the population of this country voted for Bush/Cheney twice. And the second time, it was after the facts were in that they lied us into a war that murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people. But shit, all the Democrats had to offer at the time was a guy who tried to out militarize the opposition.

I think folks are starting to wake up to all of this (at least everyone but the few who are out "teabagging").

Learning from our horrific mistakes...I think that's a strong component of justice.

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


[ Parent ]
Agree with you there (4.00 / 1)
Learning is a strong component.  And to me its not that it was the Bush administration.  To me it was that it was the USA.  Its up to us to rectify.  Also remember how informed a lot of the people were.  How high of a percentage thought Saddam was involved in 9-11.

I have to head out now, but will be back later.  


[ Parent ]
but we are not learning........that is the problem....... (4.00 / 2)


[ Parent ]
That depends on what you're talking about. (4.00 / 2)
Certainly we have a long way to go. But then, the question becomes "How does that kind of learning happen?"

I can understand those who so strongly disagree with what Obama is doing. But I think he's trying to change the narrative of fear...enemies...war to one of empathy...partnership...respect.

That's a tall order given the hand he was dealt to clean up. But its what I see happening.

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


[ Parent ]
respectfully I disagree with you in the strongest possible terms...... (4.00 / 2)


[ Parent ]
And I respect that you do so. (4.00 / 2)
I'm always willing to hear more about why/how.

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi

[ Parent ]
my thoughts on this are over in the B's diary...... (4.00 / 2)
I won't belabor this thread.....

know tho that I think you are great and no matter what struggling to be part of some kind of a solution....

so journey on and I will also.....


[ Parent ]
Some powerful words (0.00 / 0)
from a friend of mine who I talked to about this today.

As you know I played the "angry young man" well, but healing and changing means facing your complicity in your misery and failures. We've all let horrible things happen in our name, and never stopped it. Making a show of prosecuting a few offenders, without an honest look at the pedigree of what we are dealing with, is not really about stopping it, it is about sweeping it under the rug and thinking you are done with it.


Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi

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