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On Power

by: NLinStPaul

Sun Feb 08, 2009 at 08:00:18 PST        
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Underneath all the complex and seemingly random currents and crosscurrents, is the struggle between two very different ways of relating, of viewing our world and living in it. It is the struggle between two underlying possibilities for relations: the partnership model and the domination model.

Riane Eisler

I have written often about Riane Eisler, the author of The Chalice and the Blade. That's because I think her concept of partnership vs. dominance is critical to understanding both the challenges we're facing as a culture as well as the possibilities for change.

Last week I wrote about Saul Alinsky, who based his model of community organizing on understanding and working with the dynamics of power. He knew that the only kind of power folks in the forgotten areas of Chicago had was the power of large groups of people working together in partnership - especially when they came up against the monied interests.

All of that merged with what I've learned from Eisler when I read a diary this week at dkos by NCrissieB titled Obama Powerless? Not exactly... NCrissieB spent some time talking about power theory from a relational perspective and included this chart.

NLinStPaul :: On Power
Of course, most of our understanding of power comes from the assumption of "power over/against." Almost every system and relationship we've seen modeled is one of competition and/or dominance. So its no wonder that our politics are focused around a competition to see who gets to be the dominator. And as long as money=power, the powers that be (PTB) win either way.

I'd like to digress just a moment and tell a quick personal story. Back in 2003, I became a hard-core Deaniac. It wasn't because of his policies. What really solidified my support was that he was the first politician I had known that seemed committed to the idea of "people power," which for me looked like a rejuvenation of democracy. And he didn't just talk the talk. Being a part of his campaign was an experience unlike anything I'd had before in the political arena - a true bottom-up organization. I never thought Dean himself was the draw for most of us that were involved. It was a movement of the people!

What I saw in Dean's take-down (which I believe was fueled by the establishment Democrats as much as the media and the Republicans) was that he had gathered enough of us to pose a serious threat to the PTB. I took his downfall very hard because it felt like a signal that the people really didn't have any power when the establishment decided to silence us. For the next few years, I believed that democracy was over in the United States. When the 2008 elections started heating up, I just assumed that the establishment candidates - Clinton and Guliani - would prevail and politics would go on the same regardless. BOY WAS I WRONG!!!!!!

I tell that story simply to demonstrate my priorities and to point out how shocked I was to learn - rather late in the campaign - that Obama was building on what Dean had done all along. And it seemed to be flying under the radar of most people's attention - including mine. It should have come as no surprise...Obama was schooled in the power theories of Alinsky and was building a partnership movement from day one.

But the question is: what does it mean now that he's been elected and is in the position to govern? Does he go back to the dominator model of "power over" and beat down the opposition? Does a partnership model of power affect how he handles foreign policy? I have to say that we progressives seem to favor partnership when it comes to foreign policy and dominance in domestic matters. I have to question our real commitment to the tough work of diplomacy if we think its the right approach to use with Pakistan but not good enough when it comes to the Republicans.

Of course, in a partnership model, none of us gets all that we want - only dominators get that. Partnership is messy and difficult. Its not the black and white thinking that leads to "you're either with us or against us." It takes a great deal of strength to listen to people we disagree with, hold on to our principles, and try to find a way to move forward together. Are we willing to live with that?

And finally, do we believe that the power of the people is strong enough to challenge the entrenched dominators? I don't think we know yet and frankly, sometimes I'm scared about the kind of reaction we'll find as we get close. But I'm willing to take a chance on it. Because for me, everything else is meaningless if democracy/partnership isn't possible.

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I think I'll take the opportunity (4.00 / 9)
in this first comment to revise and extend my remarks.

I know that for many progressives, a partnership model looks too much like the capitulation of the Dems over the last few years and/or the triangulation of the Clinton years. And I totally understand that concern.

But I think we're dealing with something totally different here. And if you want an example of that, look at the conversation Obama had with the Washington Post about EFCA as chronicled by BooMan here. He clearly lays out his principles and challenges the opposition to come up with strategies that would work. I think its a mirror of the conversation he had with Republicans over the stimulus when all they were offering was tax cuts and he responded by saying "I won." The strategies can be negotiated, but not the principles.  

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


As long as it is all a matter... (4.00 / 7)
...of "who wins," we all lose.

I've spent my life hoping that people would understand that it is a better world only when we all win, as much as is possible.

We squabble over resources rather than see how they can best be used for the good of us all.

Competition has its place, but it ought to be competition with ourselves, striving to do better than we have before, rather than striving to dominate others.

My .02, but nobody has ever listened to me.

When all is said and done, what really matters is whether or not you are happy.


bullshit (4.00 / 4)
My .02, but nobody has ever listened to me.

:-)

and i'm in the we all win category, doors and windows wide open.
i am not a Buddhist however, i will swat at a wasp.  why?  they sting and are, generally, useless and therefore don't add anything i value.

of course, i'm sure wasps exist for a reason and i'm just not evolved enough to know what that reason means.

No ponies, but
"Please pass the lotus flower..."  


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however.... (4.00 / 2)
i used to hang brass and metal bells all over the place in our home in the burg... and boy, did wasps love to build mud huts in those bells.  

i didn't like them there, but pretty much couldn't do anything about them.

was that partnership and nurture?  like when the squirrels tore up my brand new outdoor cushions for nesting material?  i mean, okay with putting hair and string around for birds to use in nest building, but did the squirrels really require cushion stuffing?  what did they do before cushion stuffing???

sigh.  this is difficult stuff to ponder.


No ponies, but
"Please pass the lotus flower..."  


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I'm not necessarily (4.00 / 4)
with you on the "we all win" sentiment unless its attached to the really big picture. I think partnership means we all sacrifice for the advancement of the movement. When and where we do that is the part that gets difficult and messy.

I'll make a prediction here though. I think that over the long haul, we'll hear Obama talk alot more about sacrifice and empathy - two critical ingredients in making partnership work.  

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


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ingredients (4.00 / 2)
we all win when we know, from our actions, that sacrifice (say of ego-feeding, for instance) benefits the all.

great, great thought, NL.  sacrifice and empathy.

No ponies, but
"Please pass the lotus flower..."  


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I can't take credit (4.00 / 3)
for the centrality of sacrifice and empathy. Those are subtexts you hear Obama talk about quite a bit if you dig deep. So I got them from him. I think they'll come more out in the open as the governing movement gets its legs.

Interesting for me, when you combine this with the work of Eisler, what I see is an advancement of the feminine principles so many of us have been working on for so long. And by feminine, I DON'T mean gender. But the possibility for an awakening of these capacities in all of us.  

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


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that is the goal (4.00 / 2)
and one i believe i share with you, NL.  and one of the reasons i've been so attracted to your and your essays.

And by feminine, I DON'T mean gender. But the possibility for an awakening of these capacities in all of us.  


No ponies, but
"Please pass the lotus flower..."  


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It will be interesting to see (4.00 / 3)
if a man can introduce these feminine principles to the culture of our politics. Perhaps the "Nixon goes to China" syndrome.  

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi

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hahaha! (4.00 / 2)
oh that's good.  "Nixon goes to China Syndrome."   ;-b

No ponies, but
"Please pass the lotus flower..."  


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Woot, I found it! (4.00 / 6)
This changed my life, lol.

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!


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LOL (4.00 / 3)
bless you, Buhdy!    this made the day, week, month, year!!!!


No ponies, but
"Please pass the lotus flower..."  


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OMG (4.00 / 4)
how perfect is that!!!!!

I wonder if Obama is on strike 2 or 3 with the Republicans over the stimulus. LOL

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi


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ramble (4.00 / 4)
i talk, way too much.  "ramble," in other words.

and i'm not a great thinker or highly intelligent or a leader or much of jack shit, really.  which is okay.

but, i do put abstract thought and theory into actual daily practice.  if i have any claim to fame, it is that.  i rarely talk about what i haven't lived.  Kabir's words (paraphrasing Robert Bly's translation) "We don't know what we know until we live it." is a major touchstone of my time on this earth.

so.  yes.  partnership is messy and difficult.  turning power/over into power to/with is messy and difficult.  and, being as i'm in a power/under position in say a work environment (eight hours a day), turning that into power to/with has been quite messy and i've failed a lot.  but there has been some success.  teacher/student models, in as, we're all teachers, we're all students works.  that sort of give and take can level the balance.

i'm lost for words, actually.  sigh.  it's actually easier to live than to explain.
so, i'll bow out and listen.  

No ponies, but
"Please pass the lotus flower..."  


One of the things (4.00 / 4)
I really appreciate about Eisler is how she completely intermingles how the personal and the political work. I just watched a video of her explaining the barriers we face in moving from dominance to partnership. And she was very clear about it being BOTH a movement of the internal and external. In other words, we need to change ourselves (quit focusing on being a victim) AND the structures that construct the barriers. In a work situation where one is the "dominated," the ability to impact the external is limited as an individual (that's why unions are important!), but we never loose the ability to do the personal. That's what you do and describe so well.  

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi

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:-) (4.00 / 3)
thanks for seeing what it is i do, NL.  :-)
it's actually been quite a fun and satisfying life challenge.

it was some years back that both my husband and i started a dialog on external/internal.  when i look at how broke we are, how lacking by the norms of say, my siblings and relatives, i have to laugh.  we obviously chose the "internal" over external... and yet, external is where our actions have had the most impact on others, so it was fed and expanded, just wasn't so much the focus, more the end result.  of course, every impact comes with its own reactions, so again, back to the teacher/student model.

flux and balance.

re: victim.  i had my years in the ash of Cinderella.  facing that wasn't a whole lot of fun. ;-)  now i think of it as just another rite of passage.

No ponies, but
"Please pass the lotus flower..."  


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sigh (4.00 / 2)
there is so much that could be said and shared about this topic, NL.

maybe we're still in the "introducing" stage.  although there is a bit of hope.  someone i know quite well, a woman who has not only bought, but teaches:  "god, then husband, then wife" trinity has recently started talking about how she just became aware that Wisdom in the bible "might" be a feminine spirit.  i told her a little about Sophia and a couple of places to go read, but you know, this is her path, so i don't interfere.

No ponies, but
"Please pass the lotus flower..."  


I have Eisler Fatigue. (4.00 / 3)
But I'm reccing your diary anyway, NL, it looks like a good one to me.  

Thanks Rusty!!! (4.00 / 2)
Eisler fatigue????? Sounds serious. Hope you take care of that.

Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi

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